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From: David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org>
To: Oleh <ohwoeowho@gmail.com>
Cc: "Stephen J. Turnbull" <stephen@xemacs.org>,
	"emacs-devel@gnu.org" <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Clojure-like syntactic sugar for an anonymous function literal
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2015 11:32:56 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <871tmnf6lj.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAA01p3p2ArM+a_YTKWM44+tuLd2yDKs-d5Si1oNJC-O1ic7RSw@mail.gmail.com> (Oleh's message of "Thu, 22 Jan 2015 11:22:42 +0100")

Oleh <ohwoeowho@gmail.com> writes:

>>  > The most popular library in MELPA, https://github.com/magnars/dash.el,
>>  > implements it (for a long time) like this:
>>  >
>>  >     (--map (* it it) '(1 2 3))
>>  >     ;; => (1 4 9)
>>  >
>>  > With my approach, it's:
>>  >
>>  >     (mapcar #(* % %) '(1 2 3))
>>  >     ;; => (1 4 9)
>>
>> That looks almost like Perl!  Now I'm -2.  Just require dash.
>
> How is `dash' better? `--map' is a macro:
>
>     (defmacro --map (form list)
>       "Anaphoric form of `-map'."
>       (declare (debug (form form)))
>       `(mapcar (lambda (it) ,form) ,list))
>
> `dash' also gives other ~40 macros that look like this, littered all
> over the code in the MELPA, so it's impossible to go on without
> understanding what `dash' does.
>
> On the other hand, `mapcar' is a C function. It and all other
> functions can use `short-lambda' instead of being reimplemented as
> macros on a case-per-case basis by `dash'.

So use cl-loop.  Has the advantage of being _both_ concise as well as
efficient after compilation since Emacs Lisp is not really fast at
function calls.

(cl-loop for i from 1 to 3 collect (* i i))

Or (cl-loop for i in '(1 2 3) collect (* i i))

The code cl-loop creates is usually quite faster than any of the map*
functions.  I haven't checked with lexical bindings though: it is
conceivable that the anonymous lambda cost goes down for them, but so
does the variable-binding cost for cl-loop.

-- 
David Kastrup



  reply	other threads:[~2015-01-22 10:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 78+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-01-21 21:38 [PATCH] Clojure-like syntactic sugar for an anonymous function literal Oleh
2015-01-21 22:28 ` samer
2015-01-21 22:37   ` Oleh
2015-01-21 23:36     ` Artur Malabarba
2015-01-21 23:46       ` Oleh
2015-01-22  0:54         ` Artur Malabarba
2015-01-22  0:57           ` Artur Malabarba
2015-01-22  1:29 ` Daniel Colascione
2015-01-22  2:21   ` Drew Adams
2015-01-22 13:35     ` Lars Brinkhoff
2015-01-22  7:20   ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2015-01-22  8:04     ` Oleh
2015-01-22  8:16       ` David Kastrup
2015-01-22  9:07       ` Andreas Schwab
2015-01-22  9:19         ` Oleh
2015-01-22  8:52   ` René Kyllingstad
2015-01-22  9:17     ` David Kastrup
2015-01-22  9:27       ` Oleh
2015-01-22  9:38         ` Daniel Colascione
2015-01-22  9:45           ` Oleh
2015-01-22  9:50             ` Daniel Colascione
2015-01-22  9:52               ` Oleh
2015-01-22  9:57                 ` Daniel Colascione
2015-01-22 10:05                   ` Oleh
2015-01-22 16:57                     ` Ivan Andrus
2015-01-23  0:54           ` Leo Liu
2015-01-24 23:33           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2015-01-22 10:15         ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2015-01-22 10:20           ` David Kastrup
2015-01-22 14:21             ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2015-01-22 14:31               ` Oleh
2015-01-23  1:03                 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2015-01-22 10:22           ` Oleh
2015-01-22 10:32             ` David Kastrup [this message]
2015-01-22 10:40               ` Oleh
2015-01-22 10:56             ` Tassilo Horn
2015-01-22 11:03               ` Oleh
2015-01-22 14:35             ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2015-01-22 14:44               ` Oleh
2015-01-23  1:11                 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2015-01-22 14:48               ` Artur Malabarba
2015-01-23  1:17                 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2015-01-22 11:03           ` Phillip Lord
2015-01-22  9:35       ` René Kyllingstad
2015-01-22  9:45         ` Daniel Colascione
2015-01-22  9:49         ` David Kastrup
2015-01-22  9:53           ` Daniel Colascione
2015-01-22 10:22         ` David Kastrup
2015-01-22 12:37   ` Artur Malabarba
2015-01-22 12:46     ` Phillip Lord
2015-01-22 12:49       ` Daniel Colascione
2015-01-22 13:07         ` Oleh
2015-01-22 22:10           ` Richard Stallman
2015-01-23  9:28             ` David Kastrup
2015-01-24  1:09               ` Richard Stallman
2015-01-24  8:29                 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2015-01-23 10:33             ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-01-22 16:44 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-01-22 17:22   ` Oleh
2015-01-22 20:34     ` Daniel Colascione
2015-01-22 23:36       ` Stefan Monnier
2015-01-22 23:38         ` Reader macros (Was: Re: [PATCH] Clojure-like syntactic sugar for an anonymous function literal) Daniel Colascione
2015-01-23  9:33           ` Reader macros David Kastrup
2015-01-23 11:45             ` Daniel Colascione
2015-01-23 12:27               ` David Kastrup
2015-01-23 10:34         ` [PATCH] Clojure-like syntactic sugar for an anonymous function literal Phillip Lord
2015-01-23 10:47           ` Oleh
2015-01-23 11:53             ` Phillip Lord
2015-01-23 12:02               ` Daniel Colascione
2015-01-23 11:50           ` Daniel Colascione
2015-01-23 13:18             ` Phillip Lord
2015-01-23 20:24           ` Stefan Monnier
2015-01-23 20:52             ` Stefan Monnier
2015-01-23 22:25               ` Phillip Lord
2015-01-23  7:44       ` Oleh
2015-01-22 23:28     ` Stefan Monnier
2015-01-22 18:30   ` Artur Malabarba
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2015-01-26 22:22 Barry OReilly

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