From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" <stephen@xemacs.org>
To: Oleh <ohwoeowho@gmail.com>
Cc: David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org>, "emacs-devel@gnu.org" <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Clojure-like syntactic sugar for an anonymous function literal
Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2015 10:03:06 +0900 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <871tmmux4l.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAA01p3pCq73zKhiX_tcPW-0wcFaM3Ab6PK-y+4x_TtzHOrcObQ@mail.gmail.com>
Oleh writes:
> > Footnotes:
> > [1] ISTM that that goes without saying, given that Lisp having data
> > and code representations using the same syntax is advertised as an
> > advantage.
>
> I don't see a problem:
Not everything is a problem. I understand that "#(fubar indeed!)"
is reader syntax and doesn't affect internal representation of the
lambdas. That was a comment to David that (as often happens in his
posts) he is taking the literal meaning of metaphorical or elliptical
expressions too seriously. Metaprogramming is the soul of Lisp, I
know that and he knows that I know that. We disagree so violently
because we disagree so little. ;-)[1]
Re this sprinkling of bitter herbs: I just don't like the syntax (in
general I'm not a fan of anatropic syntax in Lisp), and don't want to
support use of it in the educational sense of support or in core
maintenance in XEmacs. I don't expect to convince you, it's a matter
of taste. My likes and dislikes matter to more than me because I do a
*lot* of support, and the more magic there is in the world the harder
it is to explain to users who believe in magic that under the hood
it's just a lambda. I think this
(car #(fubAr quux)) => 'lambda
would be *very* surprising to most users. That kind of computation is
what functions are for.
Footnotes:
[1] Not funny, actually, but I'm too old to change and respect David
too much to ask him to change. I even kinda like him as he is. :-)
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-01-23 1:03 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 78+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-01-21 21:38 [PATCH] Clojure-like syntactic sugar for an anonymous function literal Oleh
2015-01-21 22:28 ` samer
2015-01-21 22:37 ` Oleh
2015-01-21 23:36 ` Artur Malabarba
2015-01-21 23:46 ` Oleh
2015-01-22 0:54 ` Artur Malabarba
2015-01-22 0:57 ` Artur Malabarba
2015-01-22 1:29 ` Daniel Colascione
2015-01-22 2:21 ` Drew Adams
2015-01-22 13:35 ` Lars Brinkhoff
2015-01-22 7:20 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2015-01-22 8:04 ` Oleh
2015-01-22 8:16 ` David Kastrup
2015-01-22 9:07 ` Andreas Schwab
2015-01-22 9:19 ` Oleh
2015-01-22 8:52 ` René Kyllingstad
2015-01-22 9:17 ` David Kastrup
2015-01-22 9:27 ` Oleh
2015-01-22 9:38 ` Daniel Colascione
2015-01-22 9:45 ` Oleh
2015-01-22 9:50 ` Daniel Colascione
2015-01-22 9:52 ` Oleh
2015-01-22 9:57 ` Daniel Colascione
2015-01-22 10:05 ` Oleh
2015-01-22 16:57 ` Ivan Andrus
2015-01-23 0:54 ` Leo Liu
2015-01-24 23:33 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2015-01-22 10:15 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2015-01-22 10:20 ` David Kastrup
2015-01-22 14:21 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2015-01-22 14:31 ` Oleh
2015-01-23 1:03 ` Stephen J. Turnbull [this message]
2015-01-22 10:22 ` Oleh
2015-01-22 10:32 ` David Kastrup
2015-01-22 10:40 ` Oleh
2015-01-22 10:56 ` Tassilo Horn
2015-01-22 11:03 ` Oleh
2015-01-22 14:35 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2015-01-22 14:44 ` Oleh
2015-01-23 1:11 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2015-01-22 14:48 ` Artur Malabarba
2015-01-23 1:17 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2015-01-22 11:03 ` Phillip Lord
2015-01-22 9:35 ` René Kyllingstad
2015-01-22 9:45 ` Daniel Colascione
2015-01-22 9:49 ` David Kastrup
2015-01-22 9:53 ` Daniel Colascione
2015-01-22 10:22 ` David Kastrup
2015-01-22 12:37 ` Artur Malabarba
2015-01-22 12:46 ` Phillip Lord
2015-01-22 12:49 ` Daniel Colascione
2015-01-22 13:07 ` Oleh
2015-01-22 22:10 ` Richard Stallman
2015-01-23 9:28 ` David Kastrup
2015-01-24 1:09 ` Richard Stallman
2015-01-24 8:29 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2015-01-23 10:33 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-01-22 16:44 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-01-22 17:22 ` Oleh
2015-01-22 20:34 ` Daniel Colascione
2015-01-22 23:36 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-01-22 23:38 ` Reader macros (Was: Re: [PATCH] Clojure-like syntactic sugar for an anonymous function literal) Daniel Colascione
2015-01-23 9:33 ` Reader macros David Kastrup
2015-01-23 11:45 ` Daniel Colascione
2015-01-23 12:27 ` David Kastrup
2015-01-23 10:34 ` [PATCH] Clojure-like syntactic sugar for an anonymous function literal Phillip Lord
2015-01-23 10:47 ` Oleh
2015-01-23 11:53 ` Phillip Lord
2015-01-23 12:02 ` Daniel Colascione
2015-01-23 11:50 ` Daniel Colascione
2015-01-23 13:18 ` Phillip Lord
2015-01-23 20:24 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-01-23 20:52 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-01-23 22:25 ` Phillip Lord
2015-01-23 7:44 ` Oleh
2015-01-22 23:28 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-01-22 18:30 ` Artur Malabarba
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2015-01-26 22:22 Barry OReilly
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