* compiler macros without byte-compilation
@ 2015-03-20 9:44 Nicolas Richard
2015-03-20 13:42 ` Stefan Monnier
0 siblings, 1 reply; 2+ messages in thread
From: Nicolas Richard @ 2015-03-20 9:44 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: help-gnu-emacs
Hello,
Consider the following:
(progn
(defun foobar ()
(declare (compiler-macro
(lambda (arg)
"compiler-macro")))
(message "Done !"))
(list (symbol-function 'foobar)
(foobar)))
hit C-x C-e :
=> ((lambda nil (message "Done !")) "compiler-macro")
Now I'm puzzled : why does this happen ? foobar wasn't compiled here !
Looking at readevalloop in lread.c, I thought it was maybe because of
eager macro expansion [which the manual only mentions as happenning at
load time], and in particular I tried changing (symbol-function
'internal-macroexpand-for-load), but that doens't seem to have any
influence on the above behaviour:
(cl-letf (((symbol-function 'internal-macroexpand-for-load) nil))
(progn
(defun foobar ()
(declare (compiler-macro
(lambda (arg)
"compiler-macro")))
(message "Done !"))
(list (symbol-function 'foobar)
(foobar))))
=> ((lambda nil (message "Done !")) "compiler-macro")
Could someone shed some light on this ?
--
Nicolas Richard
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* Re: compiler macros without byte-compilation
2015-03-20 9:44 compiler macros without byte-compilation Nicolas Richard
@ 2015-03-20 13:42 ` Stefan Monnier
0 siblings, 0 replies; 2+ messages in thread
From: Stefan Monnier @ 2015-03-20 13:42 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: help-gnu-emacs
> => ((lambda nil (message "Done !")) "compiler-macro")
> Now I'm puzzled : why does this happen ? foobar wasn't compiled here !
The exact cases where compiler-macros are used are unspecified and
likely to change between versions.
If you want to know the details: compiler-macros are expanded by
macroexpand-all. So everytime we rely on macroexpand-all (i.e. "eager"
expansion) rather than on macroexpand (i.e. "lazy" expansion), compiler
macros will be expanded.
"Lazy" macroexpansion is on the way out: `eval' does not call
macroexpand-all (because it can happen that `eval' is called repeatedly
in a tight loop to evaluate very short code sequences, where going
through macroexpand-all might be detrimental for performance), but
pretty much all other paths to `eval' do or should (i.e. `load',
`eval-region', ...).
Stefan
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