From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Oleh Krehel Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: IDE Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2015 13:56:24 +0100 Message-ID: <871tcdg7ev.fsf@gmail.com> References: <561DC925.5050001@siege-engine.com> <561E32D2.4060501@yandex.ru> <83wpum3ozk.fsf@gnu.org> <87si59ln6u.fsf@isaac.fritz.box> <56224B63.3010803@yandex.ru> <562592ED.1070104@siege-engine.com> <56262577.70107@yandex.ru> <562702C2.6070505@gmail.com> <56276ECE.3090508@yandex.ru> <56281747.9050305@gmail.com> <56282664.3000409@yandex.ru> <56283D79.2070904@gmail.com> <5628C5E7.5060803@yandex.ru> <5628DD6C.6000408@gmail.com> <56303005.4030808@yandex.ru> <87r3ke6i8s.fsf@gmail.com> <56320282.2020405@yandex.ru> <87y4el52ir.fsf@gmail.com> <5632133A.7020801@yandex.ru> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1446123389 22545 80.91.229.3 (29 Oct 2015 12:56:29 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2015 12:56:29 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Eric Ludlam , David Engster , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Dmitry Gutov Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Oct 29 13:56:24 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Zrmkd-0006ys-WC for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 29 Oct 2015 13:56:20 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:43891 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zrmkc-0001IG-VT for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 29 Oct 2015 08:56:18 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:59464) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZrmkL-0001Hu-Hw for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Oct 2015 08:56:07 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZrmkH-0000VK-K3 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Oct 2015 08:56:01 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-wi0-x22e.google.com ([2a00:1450:400c:c05::22e]:36556) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZrmkH-0000VE-Dp for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 29 Oct 2015 08:55:57 -0400 Original-Received: by wicfx6 with SMTP id fx6so226732147wic.1 for ; Thu, 29 Oct 2015 05:55:56 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id :user-agent:mime-version:content-type; bh=AaSXWFt30RPjnSV/C7DORSBKEKFyWLqZMnawRr043Gw=; b=wAbd70N37hwi5LBCZ8j+Uu3eduDXp2q5ZLbAAcjfUDNBRQ+Iuw+MGLS3F3KG/0JyBp 6wKtAQPyIzQ0dWtYfhZY67NBHkj4ew6BcGLM5c4kruxZuc7b01BB35GISqF3AJOK6QJu piU4xP792NylYUGGKX9y9TN61Bhi2kW3piIEq2zbeki7ISvzEzmf6CXdMMst9n5wMbv+ uO8KrRCien91AocrGRvcOWwur/TuSN+pmkA6I7vpxNrdTD5FhBmp/9ZMkBoRK+m+Duc3 ir4ksZw33L6NISBtofnFAhngJWMvXQS3ZnORWaGrgEeIil6LSDc6pjv4Xa6BtPcepsa5 v1UQ== X-Received: by 10.194.193.99 with SMTP id hn3mr2338340wjc.15.1446123356871; Thu, 29 Oct 2015 05:55:56 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from firefly (dyn069045.nbw.tue.nl. [131.155.69.45]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id it4sm1727568wjb.0.2015.10.29.05.55.55 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 29 Oct 2015 05:55:55 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <5632133A.7020801@yandex.ru> (Dmitry Gutov's message of "Thu, 29 Oct 2015 14:38:18 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2a00:1450:400c:c05::22e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:192887 Archived-At: Dmitry Gutov writes: > On 10/29/2015 01:37 PM, Oleh Krehel wrote: > >> The thing is that function-args adds some functionality that would be >> missing otherwise for C++. > > I'm not exactly sure what you're referring to, but shouldn't that go > straight into CEDET? I'm referring to the display of complex C++ types, some inheritance of members from one namespace into another, some heuristics for symbol-at-point completion, the ability to jump-to-tag in a whole directory instead of a single file etc. These are mostly minor improvements here and there. Since I make these small improvements often and don't have write access to CEDET, I keep them in a separate package. >> That's nice. But somehow I don't see why anyone would not just use >> Clojure if you need a JVM hosted language. > > If only everyone worked on greenfield projects, liked Lisp and had > freedom to choose it at the workplace. Oh well, can't have it all I guess:)