From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Michael Albinus Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#23006: 25.0.92; Loading Tramp breaks pcomplete in eshell-mode Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2016 09:28:10 +0100 Message-ID: <871t7650th.fsf@gmx.de> References: <871t7d4ion.fsf@gmx.de> <87oaagi128.fsf@gmx.de> <877fh0hovs.fsf@gmx.de> <756f60a7-bdf9-a806-b9d6-dbf17f0ebaab@yandex.ru> <87y49gg9sm.fsf@gmx.de> <845ef936-dec1-eac9-db2a-f2bb25f3a830@yandex.ru> <87egb8faxv.fsf@gmx.de> <8760wj3eks.fsf@gmx.de> <8760wj4jvp.fsf@gmx.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1458376162 30775 80.91.229.3 (19 Mar 2016 08:29:22 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2016 08:29:22 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 23006@debbugs.gnu.org, Dmitry Gutov To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Mar 19 09:29:11 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ahCFy-0003u3-Sh for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; 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Sat, 19 Mar 2016 08:29:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 23006) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Mar 2016 08:28:24 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53176 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ahCFD-0002vn-P8 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 19 Mar 2016 04:28:23 -0400 Original-Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.15.15]:58506) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ahCFC-0002va-7Z for 23006@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 19 Mar 2016 04:28:23 -0400 Original-Received: from detlef.gmx.de ([79.195.13.135]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx002) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0LuxG5-1ZhZ520DFB-01083C; Sat, 19 Mar 2016 09:28:13 +0100 In-Reply-To: (Stefan Monnier's message of "Fri, 18 Mar 2016 18:41:17 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1.50 (gnu/linux) X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:GLVd8qgq5upCLD56EvVPUxdwvuBnIA5O0/WSgWu5XZbvHxQnezu lRUxKS/zzAU+gjxWo/1NRVejhlFTHfC654H5oAMlAx+0ZKOQe7V5wrnYCMqEUmKkzREveGL QENEWjhGP6m0AzhqWo5OED9MaEsz3MKITnLBZUvx1vTPAKlwlMHfRBtIpD1hXjIZelrn5FW zph5urakD+ml4x2zzvlUQ== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:hIcWCPHann0=:rugYpEXJ8EB0iAeTvzvmlc xQNJe3AvQj/bUTzQ3kii+nwyUfnbZOFhrZhQDQZiCgBBRokWGAtABNJroe2Os7iFTpNCzBflN 324gCTkHTsSNCilLekib879GeNtXPm7bvsGLuDktgDecTWU2ymbn6bQRb3C9KjpIV0lOLFWAZ I8863HUa5BzTBJUyiZkdwN/uLI9d10opPqQP8dkzRAkNTuCOQPvG7iM2lRzL8+oMmLArbVjJP BjobdS60tTdYW0aILo67x9WqpBHyOmfqI442tRwfy2/Zqp3sZ4hYAnSa027fJd3ue2ye27h1I uMZ4KwP9J2h2wt0wM/jnznDrjib2CO5b+og2PS3rJN6Yxm0+e8/WpQQwkWDb4OdbYn2izMkxA u+Aqb8kM8YVm3kmlyEL2YAwXnhfqZsimnYVk2EWfo9j6aFFZoEb00/2X6HuIeB2x32XTCunf7 EPvqOjC14mickEV8em4s2FoXtFQr3JNindXc7Jw783V9DkVo9c8N0OfyUCqmdXQCKsXSVcNGm kdZwtvW3fH5a8XjGOadv32msLqJhRnHnqVYfazzfSIKzn+Fu3P6+qMOqWY2l1teR2tYlax9z3 UKOm6XpbWWudWXRf8bLaO2oIe2sV4g75upPUEDRvshGA2iPwIPXl+y1G3svko4+6DM+bDsCby GDLzHLg/qmxo2h78R23o0n6R8L1GAYdDd4jh2FdcuiSu7viK7qPUDVtuV18HCeIkn+Vep3YHe RQVIGdqAz24c99u64O9Mmk386YYmV1qLxQLYgvL+7HEOBVQzALaaVZl6D+M0bgx76GvHy+Ox X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:115073 Archived-At: Stefan Monnier writes: >> non-essential is essential for Tramp only until the completion of method >> and host is finished. As soon as the filename contains two colons, or a >> slash, it completes. No problem with your example, therefore. You'll get >> "/ssh:myhost:src/emacs/" after hitting TAB, even if non-essential is >> bound to t. > > If the connection was not yet established, I think it'd be risky for > Tramp to provide the completion when non-essential is non-nil, because > establishing a connection risks being too intrusive for a non-essential > operation (it's probably OK to reuse an existing connection, OTOH). When we have "/ssh:myhost:src/em" to complete, and the user indicates she wants completion (pressing TAB or so), she expresses her wish to open a connection to myhost. No reason to deny this. non-essential comes in play only when hostname completion hasn't been finished. This is how Tramp behaves for years. I haven't heard complaints about (except the cases non-essential isn't let-bound, like the one we're discussing here). Again, I still don't understand why it hurts to bind non-essential in pcomplete. > Stefan Best regards, Michael.