* OT: version control of .el files in NT Emacs
@ 2016-09-08 17:32 Sivaram Neelakantan
2016-09-08 20:05 ` John Mastro
2016-09-08 23:03 ` Óscar Fuentes
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From: Sivaram Neelakantan @ 2016-09-08 17:32 UTC (permalink / raw
To: help-gnu-emacs
What's the best way to back up/version control my .Emacs and .el files
that are bog deep in some userprofile folder like
c:/Users/ADMIN/AppData/Roaming
I have git and cygwin installed. Ideally, I'd like to replicate the
changes into C:/Sivaram/repos everytime I tinker with the files in the
HOME.
I could do a shell script and cp the files over and add it to the
other repo but that's a drag and I'm likely to forget to do it
regularly.
sivaram
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* Re: OT: version control of .el files in NT Emacs
2016-09-08 17:32 OT: version control of .el files in NT Emacs Sivaram Neelakantan
@ 2016-09-08 20:05 ` John Mastro
2016-09-08 23:03 ` Óscar Fuentes
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From: John Mastro @ 2016-09-08 20:05 UTC (permalink / raw
To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; +Cc: Sivaram Neelakantan
Sivaram Neelakantan <nsivaram.net@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> What's the best way to back up/version control my .Emacs and .el files
> that are bog deep in some userprofile folder like
>
> c:/Users/ADMIN/AppData/Roaming
>
> I have git and cygwin installed. Ideally, I'd like to replicate the
> changes into C:/Sivaram/repos everytime I tinker with the files in the
> HOME.
>
> I could do a shell script and cp the files over and add it to the
> other repo but that's a drag and I'm likely to forget to do it
> regularly.
Why not work with the files in the repos themselves? In other words, do
they really need to be in two different places?
If c:/Users/ADMIN isn't an appropriate place to keep a git repository,
you could override HOME to e.g. c:/Sivaram, and then create
c:/Sivaram/.emacs.d as a git repository.
John
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* Re: OT: version control of .el files in NT Emacs
2016-09-08 17:32 OT: version control of .el files in NT Emacs Sivaram Neelakantan
2016-09-08 20:05 ` John Mastro
@ 2016-09-08 23:03 ` Óscar Fuentes
2016-09-09 4:50 ` Sivaram Neelakantan
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From: Óscar Fuentes @ 2016-09-08 23:03 UTC (permalink / raw
To: help-gnu-emacs
Sivaram Neelakantan <nsivaram.net@gmail.com> writes:
> What's the best way to back up/version control my .Emacs and .el files
> that are bog deep in some userprofile folder like
>
> c:/Users/ADMIN/AppData/Roaming
>
> I have git and cygwin installed. Ideally, I'd like to replicate the
> changes into C:/Sivaram/repos everytime I tinker with the files in the
> HOME.
>
> I could do a shell script and cp the files over and add it to the
> other repo but that's a drag and I'm likely to forget to do it
> regularly.
In HOME put an .emacs file with a single line:
(load "c:/Sivaram/repos/your_el_repo/emacs.el")
where your_el_repo contains your Emacs-related files and emacs.el
contains whatever you now have in %HOME%/.emacs.
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* Re: OT: version control of .el files in NT Emacs
2016-09-08 23:03 ` Óscar Fuentes
@ 2016-09-09 4:50 ` Sivaram Neelakantan
2016-09-09 7:38 ` tomas
2016-09-09 15:24 ` Óscar Fuentes
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From: Sivaram Neelakantan @ 2016-09-09 4:50 UTC (permalink / raw
To: help-gnu-emacs
On Fri, Sep 09 2016,Óscar Fuentes wrote:
> Sivaram Neelakantan <nsivaram.net@gmail.com> writes:
>
[snipped 12 lines]
>
> In HOME put an .emacs file with a single line:
>
> (load "c:/Sivaram/repos/your_el_repo/emacs.el")
>
> where your_el_repo contains your Emacs-related files and emacs.el
> contains whatever you now have in %HOME%/.emacs.
dammit, that makes me look so stupid. It's exactly what I want.
Thanks for the simple idea.
sivaram
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* Re: OT: version control of .el files in NT Emacs
2016-09-09 4:50 ` Sivaram Neelakantan
@ 2016-09-09 7:38 ` tomas
2016-09-09 14:53 ` Sivaram Neelakantan
2016-09-09 15:24 ` Óscar Fuentes
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From: tomas @ 2016-09-09 7:38 UTC (permalink / raw
To: help-gnu-emacs
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> dammit, that makes me look so stupid. It's exactly what I want.
> Thanks for the simple idea.
"Better look stupid and get smarter each day than look smart and
get stupider each day"
(now I'm looking smart, am I? ;-)
regards
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* Re: OT: version control of .el files in NT Emacs
2016-09-09 7:38 ` tomas
@ 2016-09-09 14:53 ` Sivaram Neelakantan
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From: Sivaram Neelakantan @ 2016-09-09 14:53 UTC (permalink / raw
To: help-gnu-emacs
On Fri, Sep 09 2016,tomas@tuxteam.de nil wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 09, 2016 at 10:20:36AM +0530, Sivaram Neelakantan wrote:
>
> [...]
>
>> dammit, that makes me look so stupid. It's exactly what I want.
>> Thanks for the simple idea.
>
> "Better look stupid and get smarter each day than look smart and
> get stupider each day"
ermmm...this..is actually a thing? :)
[snipped 7 lines]
sivaram
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* Re: OT: version control of .el files in NT Emacs
2016-09-09 4:50 ` Sivaram Neelakantan
2016-09-09 7:38 ` tomas
@ 2016-09-09 15:24 ` Óscar Fuentes
2016-09-10 4:57 ` Sivaram Neelakantan
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From: Óscar Fuentes @ 2016-09-09 15:24 UTC (permalink / raw
To: help-gnu-emacs; +Cc: Sivaram Neelakantan
Sivaram Neelakantan <nsivaram.net@gmail.com> writes:
>> In HOME put an .emacs file with a single line:
>>
>> (load "c:/Sivaram/repos/your_el_repo/emacs.el")
>>
>> where your_el_repo contains your Emacs-related files and emacs.el
>> contains whatever you now have in %HOME%/.emacs.
>
> dammit, that makes me look so stupid.
I don't think so.
> It's exactly what I want. Thanks for the simple idea.
You're welcome.
You probably noticed that you need to adjust the load-path. A robust way
of doing that is to put in your_el_repo/emacs.el :
(add-to-list 'load-path (file-name-directory load-file-name))
It is also is useful to put this
(setq user-init-file load-file-name)
at the beginning of your emacs.el file in your_el_repo. Look up the
docstring for the user-init-file variable to see why.
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* Re: OT: version control of .el files in NT Emacs
2016-09-09 15:24 ` Óscar Fuentes
@ 2016-09-10 4:57 ` Sivaram Neelakantan
2016-09-10 12:52 ` Óscar Fuentes
0 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread
From: Sivaram Neelakantan @ 2016-09-10 4:57 UTC (permalink / raw
To: help-gnu-emacs
On Fri, Sep 09 2016,Óscar Fuentes wrote:
[snipped 17 lines]
> You probably noticed that you need to adjust the load-path. A robust way
> of doing that is to put in your_el_repo/emacs.el :
>
> (add-to-list 'load-path (file-name-directory load-file-name))
>
> It is also is useful to put this
>
> (setq user-init-file load-file-name)
>
> at the beginning of your emacs.el file in your_el_repo. Look up the
> docstring for the user-init-file variable to see why.
>
How does this help? Because I have just 2 lines in the $HOME/.emacs
(setq user-emacs-directory "c:/gnu/initfiles/.emacs.d/" )
(load-file "c:/gnu/initfiles/.emacs")
And in the c:/gnu/initfiles/.emacs file I hard coded paths like
(load-file "c:/gnu/initfiles/.text_config.el")
(load-file "c:/gnu/initfiles/.ido_config.el")
(load-file "c:/gnu/initfiles/.ac_config.el")
(load-file "c:/gnu/initfiles/.r_ess_config.el")
(load-file "c:/gnu/initfiles/.cygwin_config.el")
(load-file "c:/gnu/initfiles/.uniq_config.el")
(load-file "c:/gnu/initfiles/.smex_config.el")
I get it that .sh_history, .smex_history and other .history*
files used/created by various packages will be still created in
$HOME/.emacs but those are fairly transient stuff aren't they?
sivaram
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* Re: OT: version control of .el files in NT Emacs
2016-09-10 4:57 ` Sivaram Neelakantan
@ 2016-09-10 12:52 ` Óscar Fuentes
2016-09-10 14:04 ` Sivaram Neelakantan
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From: Óscar Fuentes @ 2016-09-10 12:52 UTC (permalink / raw
To: help-gnu-emacs
Sivaram Neelakantan <nsivaram.net@gmail.com> writes:
>> You probably noticed that you need to adjust the load-path. A robust way
>> of doing that is to put in your_el_repo/emacs.el :
>>
>> (add-to-list 'load-path (file-name-directory load-file-name))
>>
>> It is also is useful to put this
>>
>> (setq user-init-file load-file-name)
>>
>> at the beginning of your emacs.el file in your_el_repo. Look up the
>> docstring for the user-init-file variable to see why.
>>
>
> How does this help? Because I have just 2 lines in the $HOME/.emacs
If you always use absolute paths and don't plan to change them, not
much, other than noise. The lines I suggested makes possible to move
your files to another directory requiring only a change to $HOME/.emacs.
And by not setting user-init-file some features will try to
inspect/modify $HOME/.emacs instead of your_el_repo/emacs.el.
> (setq user-emacs-directory "c:/gnu/initfiles/.emacs.d/" )
> (load-file "c:/gnu/initfiles/.emacs")
>
> And in the c:/gnu/initfiles/.emacs file I hard coded paths like
>
> (load-file "c:/gnu/initfiles/.text_config.el")
Prepending those files with a dot is not a good idea. The dot means that
the files are hidden on most GNU/Linux file browsers and might confuse
some tools on windows, that expect file names to obey the name.extension
format.
Besides, load-file is an interactive function that calls `load'. With
my suggested adjustment to load-path you can simply use
(load "text_config.el")
or simply
(load "text_config")
which will also work if you ever decide to byte-compile your config files.
> I get it that .sh_history, .smex_history and other .history*
> files used/created by various packages will be still created in
> $HOME/.emacs but those are fairly transient stuff aren't they?
Yes, I don't care about those either.
One thing I do is to use a separate file for customizations:
(setq custom-file
(concat (file-name-directory load-file-name) "customizations.el"))
(load custom-file 't)
If you use custom themes you probably want to set custom-theme-directory
too.
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* Re: OT: version control of .el files in NT Emacs
2016-09-10 12:52 ` Óscar Fuentes
@ 2016-09-10 14:04 ` Sivaram Neelakantan
2016-09-10 23:01 ` Óscar Fuentes
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From: Sivaram Neelakantan @ 2016-09-10 14:04 UTC (permalink / raw
To: help-gnu-emacs
On Sat, Sep 10 2016,Óscar Fuentes wrote:
[snipped 17 lines]
> If you always use absolute paths and don't plan to change them, not
> much, other than noise. The lines I suggested makes possible to move
> your files to another directory requiring only a change to $HOME/.emacs.
>
> And by not setting user-init-file some features will try to
> inspect/modify $HOME/.emacs instead of your_el_repo/emacs.el.
OK, then I better fix that.
[snipped 8 lines]
> Prepending those files with a dot is not a good idea. The dot means that
> the files are hidden on most GNU/Linux file browsers and might confuse
> some tools on windows, that expect file names to obey the name.extension
> format.
Yes the naming was deliberate with a . prefix. I didn't want the
files to clutter my $HOME/ in my linux box, so I let it get hidden by
using a . prefix. On Windows, so far, I haven't had any problems as
no other program looks for these kind of files
>
> Besides, load-file is an interactive function that calls `load'. With
> my suggested adjustment to load-path you can simply use
>
> (load "text_config.el")
>
> or simply
>
> (load "text_config")
>
> which will also work if you ever decide to byte-compile your config files.
Thanks for this. I will relook at the load-path suggestion of yours.
[snipped 7 lines]
> One thing I do is to use a separate file for customizations:
>
> (setq custom-file
> (concat (file-name-directory load-file-name) "customizations.el"))
> (load custom-file 't)
Sorry, I'm lost here; could you please give an example of your set up and how
it helps. I broke up my .emacs to manage the customisations for each
mode. How would your example help?
>
> If you use custom themes you probably want to set custom-theme-directory
> too.
Right, will fix this too, as I see this
custom-theme-directory is a variable defined in `custom.el'.
Its value is "~/.emacs.d/"
Original value was
"c:/gnu/initfiles/.emacs.d/"
Thanks
sivaram
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* Re: OT: version control of .el files in NT Emacs
2016-09-10 14:04 ` Sivaram Neelakantan
@ 2016-09-10 23:01 ` Óscar Fuentes
0 siblings, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread
From: Óscar Fuentes @ 2016-09-10 23:01 UTC (permalink / raw
To: help-gnu-emacs
Sivaram Neelakantan <nsivaram.net@gmail.com> writes:
>> One thing I do is to use a separate file for customizations:
>>
>> (setq custom-file
>> (concat (file-name-directory load-file-name) "customizations.el"))
>> (load custom-file 't)
>
> Sorry, I'm lost here; could you please give an example of your set up and how
> it helps. I broke up my .emacs to manage the customisations for each
> mode. How would your example help?
Do M-x customize
Change any value and then click on [State] and choose "Save for future
sessions". This will edit your $HOME/.emacs file (if you didn't set
`user-init-file') or your_el_repo/.emacs otherwise. I prefer to store
those customizations on its own file.
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