From: Joost Kremers <joostkremers@fastmail.fm>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca,
Juri Linkov <juri@linkov.net>
Subject: Re: Doc of keyboard macros
Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2018 22:17:01 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <871s9i7irm.fsf@fastmail.fm> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83k1naadtf.fsf@gnu.org>
On Mon, Sep 24 2018, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
>> From: Juri Linkov <juri@linkov.net>
>> Cc: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>,
>> emacs-devel@gnu.org
>> Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2018 22:23:03 +0300
>>
>> There is a current tendency towards deprecating F1-F10 function
>> keys
>> by hardware manufacturers. These keys are already hard to
>> press by default
>> on PC: a special additional key <Fn> needs to be pressed in
>> combination of
>> <Fn>-<F3>, and a Chromebook has no row of function keys at all:
>> in order
>> to get <F4>, you have to press <Search>-4.
>
> Those are still faster than "C-x (", since they are a single key
> combination, whereas "C-x (" is 2 key combinations.
I think that's debatable. Personally, if I want to hit a function
key, I need to move my hand from the home row to reach for it, and
I need to look at the keyboard to do it. Also, the <Fn> special
modifier key is not in my muscle memory, which means I'd need to
look at that as well.[1]
So hitting `C-x (` is definitely faster for me and requires no
conscious action, quite unlike the function keys. I never use
F3/F4 to define keyboard macros.
In fact, I never quite understood why (some) function keys have
default bindings at all in Emacs. To me, function keys are as
cumbersome as cursor keys, Home/End, or PgUp/PgDn.[2] Not that I
mind, of course, it's just puzzling to me.
Joost
[1] My laptop's BIOS allows me to switch the effect of the Fn key,
so I could actually get <F3> by pressing just the relevant key
without Fn if I wanted to. But I'd still need to look at the
keyboard to press it.
[2] Admittedly, those have default bindings as well, but they are
standard across applications and operating systems. Function keys
are not.
--
Joost Kremers
Life has its moments
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-09-24 20:17 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-09-24 14:47 Doc of keyboard macros Stefan Monnier
2018-09-24 15:21 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-09-24 15:51 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-09-24 16:36 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-09-24 16:50 ` Andreas Schwab
2018-09-24 17:07 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-09-24 19:00 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-09-24 19:23 ` Juri Linkov
2018-09-24 19:35 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-09-24 20:03 ` Alan Mackenzie
2018-09-24 20:17 ` Joost Kremers [this message]
2018-10-10 20:25 ` Mathias Dahl
2018-10-14 8:28 ` Marcin Borkowski
2018-10-14 14:33 ` Yuri Khan
2018-10-15 20:22 ` Juri Linkov
2018-10-16 1:05 ` Van L
2018-09-24 20:06 ` Drew Adams
2018-09-24 20:22 ` Filipp Gunbin
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