From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stephen Berman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: evaluating numbers Date: Thu, 07 Nov 2019 11:30:12 +0100 Message-ID: <871ruk2d3f.fsf@gmx.net> References: <875zjw2emg.fsf@gmx.net> <618B38D9-CD34-4200-8CA1-1A6B0922A83A@traduction-libre.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="17497"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: Emacs development discussions To: Jean-Christophe Helary Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Nov 07 11:30:55 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1iSf43-0004PZ-3v for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 07 Nov 2019 11:30:55 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:40594 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iSf41-0004di-Op for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 07 Nov 2019 05:30:54 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:38974) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iSf3V-0004cP-4N for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 07 Nov 2019 05:30:22 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iSf3T-0000hF-VR for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 07 Nov 2019 05:30:21 -0500 Original-Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.15.18]:55911) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iSf3T-0000aG-Fv for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 07 Nov 2019 05:30:19 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=gmx.net; s=badeba3b8450; t=1573122616; bh=7ChKMvhP6eVKOT7SJyw4nPzVrfI/QEY9jGLnQb6mT3w=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To; b=B6M6tpz/AgJAmobA8v+SXnc0OIZP5kCY/fodi3/6AUXRltUMTUYtNteToLuP3yKWJ RWYABXMXRdv1gUg7BMfviRaAtR3KO6FAvuINDPDvkXQ6f2xzn6EVtkWCG7Uu4PSoj8 BdWvaiYrDQXB8Z1eqTtofJgR+lrLWjXOJAK92tec= X-UI-Sender-Class: 01bb95c1-4bf8-414a-932a-4f6e2808ef9c Original-Received: from strobe-lfs84 ([88.74.20.3]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx004 [212.227.17.190]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1MQ5rO-1iFNOK0GbQ-00M1sq; Thu, 07 Nov 2019 11:30:16 +0100 In-Reply-To: <618B38D9-CD34-4200-8CA1-1A6B0922A83A@traduction-libre.org> (Jean-Christophe Helary's message of "Thu, 7 Nov 2019 19:20:23 +0900") X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:hLItyksGaLqFQFwGyxlwRjjSBsKIgnFvrsFOlxYx2hCCPRkwnVs EYPHU6BsW+0kQBtZqoSIBzn9YBkYS9C6qGWHyR0Jv6l3tF4twqghE+Vlub7HYuEpAyWEM/K oepZmFG6Mia4xw8jqcU2EkkOZvO3MqJKryniZVux28FZd2AqbTwIg0rCJHdcmFo+Z8MM1Up 9hdc5edj3QBu1Kh9H40ig== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:h5Z6axL5p/8=:wVSIw7xJ+xG9ELhuIgTAUs omVwa5lXcJe15sul9q3NM8JpSQf+6COzirbfU9qcF5yy3G+YL0U36Z5pEjOQyBlUe9MFFfOPx e8eXFVyr55gNDOFgUTsj0zeVBGqF4kRRJYHtZevLks1Nwul4VKmACrIJ3clxWr1DA2gCQrxQ/ Zt7gTZ9OM6xrGN5uIRhcvVIbkysAua+2AFrAnIu1FNxOtfFwpsCWcM/ZfWP9ZI1fLn62y0g3W QJrYBGW2A11bgWVw4OV1N+inRbCDUCcDUF5QdPml6iKZ45BuPITPScvBnnc70VG6qpj1LNvuy I7gY5MGGVQO/fxoCpA1Q95X5HPXCAq7Fz9/S9mjSgn23sBxOtgntYO+UzgzNvywshzCIgVvka MUw2JcLeUPOjA0Rc8UarKYfBsFLzJ1uYnTlP/n6u8VaWvvErrye7BHgYHYUhgDVO0pNjghCHk rEwIOOxGvbQLKhbK6NvL7pAXYbd/jDU8EO6weZsZ3oRh6SjxOPwvaslXB2Nc+ToThq84BBr03 MElcdTQlBKln/pHofp4zMcJPRrngHeMVS6PxIwZr4Qi85sZNquJWs+hKwqb2hgC/7Z7qJWIMY 0me0j855+5bp2ebUxydEVpBfpvIGeBGaW8AomyWLCeZLIC6TGwnHuv3TjZJdaRJb50hpEtBhb W26pimGEGSjGv2k/DQfBvK57/uclXUeloQbrl95pA71p4z5oHfQXw5itNm5lm+lAKKb1E0Xe9 5NFAEZTH49ebvHLjao+jx6+yuYpek7EByra14QtGPonfOYN6LQVF/Hoj5f7nXyZ0AyHYsDxD X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 212.227.15.18 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:241912 Archived-At: On Thu, 7 Nov 2019 19:20:23 +0900 Jean-Christophe Helary wrote: >> On Nov 7, 2019, at 18:57, Stephen Berman wrote: >>=20 >> On Thu, 7 Nov 2019 18:43:40 +0900 Jean-Christophe Helary >> wrote: >>=20 >>> A while ago the biggest number that evaluated to a character (that I co= uld not >>> display) was 1114111 (evaluated to "?=F4=8F=BF=BF "). >>>=20 >>> Now, I can only go up to 127 (#o177, #x7f, ?\C-?) and 128 evaluates to = (#o200, >>> #x80) which looks like the ASCII character set, but I was under the imp= ression >>> that Emacs had its own character set... >>>=20 >>> What's going on here ? >>=20 >> This: >>=20 >> eval-expression-print-maximum-character is a variable defined in =E2=80= =98simple.el=E2=80=99. >> Its value is 127 >>=20 >> You can customize this variable. >>=20 >>=20 >> This variable was introduced, or its default value was changed, in >> version 26.1 of Emacs. >> Probably introduced at or before Emacs version 26.1. > > Thank you very much. > > What's the rationale behind this change ? > > I find that's a bit silly to limit the character set range available with= this > evaluation. > > Anybody knows ? I think the main rationale was that it could take a long time for Emacs to return the evaluation when the system had a lot of fonts installed, because Emacs would try them all to display the character. Steve Berman