From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs project mission (was Re: "If you're still seeing problems, please reopen." [ Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2019 13:29:55 +0100 Message-ID: <871ru0t7p8.fsf@gnus.org> References: <20191117113054.49837.qmail@mail.muc.de> <87pnhq7mxg.fsf@gnus.org> <87bltaz9g4.fsf@telefonica.net> <834kz25qp9.fsf@gnu.org> <87y2wexsv1.fsf@telefonica.net> <20191118175639.08d02820@jabberwock.cb.piermont.com> <874kz0pa9y.fsf@gnus.org> <87sgmjyn60.fsf@gmx.de> <87imnezyt5.fsf@gmx.de> <481a1f16-d661-0f96-2f45-3d5ec9c1132e@yandex.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="230301"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: ofv@wanadoo.es, emacs-devel@gnu.org, perry@piermont.com, michael.albinus@gmx.de, Dmitry Gutov To: Richard Stallman Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Nov 22 13:30:52 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1iY85M-000xmf-Ac for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 22 Nov 2019 13:30:52 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:50212 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iY85K-0001ob-UZ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 22 Nov 2019 07:30:50 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:46953) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iY84a-0001m0-H0 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 22 Nov 2019 07:30:05 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iY84Z-00022Q-Dx for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 22 Nov 2019 07:30:04 -0500 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([2a01:4f9:2b:f0f::2]:36018) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iY84Z-00020D-7h; Fri, 22 Nov 2019 07:30:03 -0500 Original-Received: from cm-84.212.202.86.getinternet.no ([84.212.202.86] helo=marnie) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1iY84S-0002uv-7J; Fri, 22 Nov 2019 13:29:58 +0100 In-Reply-To: (Richard Stallman's message of "Thu, 21 Nov 2019 22:38:34 -0500") X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 2a01:4f9:2b:f0f::2 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:242619 Archived-At: Richard Stallman writes: > Maybe some of the people who report bugs for other packages might > avoid reporting bugs for Emacs. If so, could you ask them why they > avoid it? I encounter this issue regularly -- people have some issue with Emacs and I say (via email, irc, in person, even): "Well, that sounds like a bug. You should report it with M-x report-emacs-bug". But they don't, and my impression is that it seems scary. The report seems to go into an official secret place or something? People are used to web-based bug trackers, and those aren't scary, because people are used to put all kinds of nonsense on the web, while email is for serious business. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no