From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Zhu Zihao Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Quit help for someone new to Emacs Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2019 23:37:10 +0800 Message-ID: <871rt0l42h.wl-all_but_last@163.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI-EPG 1.14.7 - "Harue") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="123539"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.15.9 (Almost Unreal) SEMI-EPG/1.14.7 (Harue) FLIM/1.14.9 (=?ISO-8859-4?Q?Goj=F2?=) APEL/10.8 EasyPG/1.0.0 Emacs/27.0 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) MULE/6.0 (HANACHIRUSATO) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Dec 19 16:53:20 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1ihy76-000W12-Gk for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 19 Dec 2019 16:53:20 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:43884 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ihy75-0003fR-Aw for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 19 Dec 2019 10:53:19 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:50195) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ihy6Z-0002yz-OI for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 19 Dec 2019 10:52:49 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ihy6U-0004Tg-VD for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 19 Dec 2019 10:52:43 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-m971.mail.163.com ([123.126.97.1]:45444) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ihy6T-0003aU-At for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 19 Dec 2019 10:52:42 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=163.com; s=s110527; h=Date:Message-ID:From:Subject:MIME-Version; bh=VpMiC ySMeanPnMuBZZIXroCpCNqXLNZzxnZlijLGulc=; b=NZw3ordJydOuaHuQwBdM8 ObrlMPcx4nBVkxxEv/SZIAievbRCM204ta0eDWow8b4cLkgdbYLg/qlzbAxnP91j 1ziNXtVJE+krQ0Ablam0LdcQohu0S8KVaNR+wuGg7CED0ronoaZNuz22eUUx7KCD JaZdyXtxr0LdLtJJcSY+J8= Original-Received: from archlinux.163.com (unknown [112.93.132.134]) by smtp1 (Coremail) with SMTP id GdxpCgCnNR8nmftdjGS1BQ--.231S2; Thu, 19 Dec 2019 23:37:19 +0800 (CST) X-Face: :]]%@R1{oDt0%iKgI@Kga#OZ; ogt+%OOne&J4#E*O,TIlI)yEFw--I\:3s~EV97GI$1.1!}8inmF9UgtUBB@#8>'8NWNC8qg/v*OLfQB; Z:@G3HeNf3u& ,&HpBGv%?p{bzsl'|5T";1&X X-CM-TRANSID: GdxpCgCnNR8nmftdjGS1BQ--.231S2 X-Coremail-Antispam: 1Uf129KBjvdXoW7XF15trWxWF1rtF43KrWkCrg_yoWxCrc_Gw 1vyF47ZrWUursxCw1qq3W7Ar45K3WrJ3y8J34xtw1S9w18AFsrGFWkt3s3u3yUuF4jqrn8 K34xJr4xJ39I9jkaLaAFLSUrUUUUUb8apTn2vfkv8UJUUUU8Yxn0WfASr-VFAUDa7-sFnT 9fnUUvcSsGvfC2KfnxnUUI43ZEXa7IU0jhF7UUUUU== X-Originating-IP: [112.93.132.134] X-CM-SenderInfo: pdoosuxxwbztlvw6il2tof0z/1tbiKQ+Qr1XludGyxQAAs2 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 123.126.97.1 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:243479 Archived-At: Well, it's not a joke. I found Vim will give a hint for new user how can they really quit Vim when they try to press "C-c". I know there's detailed message in splash screen describes that how to quit. But if a new user use Emacs to open a file directly(e.g. run "emacs .bashrc" in bash). They can't see this useful message. For Emacs, "C-c" is preserved for user bindings. So it's always empty for a Emacs without any user configuration. IMO, it maybe useful to pop a message "Press 'C-x C-c' ('C-' means Ctrl-) to quit Emacs" in echo area when someone hit "C-c" frequently. And no doubt that this feature can be controlled via a Lisp variable. What's your opinions? -- Zihao