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From: Federico Tedin <federicotedin@gmail.com>
To: Michael Albinus <michael.albinus@gmx.de>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: INSIDE_EMACS and Tramp
Date: Sat, 04 Apr 2020 22:13:18 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <871rp357s1.fsf@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87blo78exg.fsf@gmx.de> (Michael Albinus's message of "Sat, 04 Apr 2020 17:10:35 +0200")

> Tramp is the obvious victim, but I don't know whether it is the only
> package which will be mentioned in combination with another package in
> INSIDE_EMACS.
>
> Furthermore, in eshell or any other package you don't see what Tramp
> sets in the remote shell. I believe we need a mechanism where different
> packages add their settings (it's not only "shell" related, epg or
> compile say something different). And when this variable is set for a
> process, there must be a way to use these cumulated settings inside of
> just the value a single package want set.
>
> In the local case, this cumulative setting might be just the package
> name like "eshell".
>
> First we shall agree a common mechanism. Something which works exactly
> for eshel and Tramp isn't sufficient.

Aah OK, so then this mechanism for generating the value for INSIDE_EMACS
needs to be more general. How about something like:

(defvar inside-emacs-extras nil)

(defun inside-emacs (&optional context)
  (mapconcat #'identity `(,emacs-version
			  ,@(when context (list context))
			  ,@inside-emacs-extras)
	     ","))

So in Eshell we would call (inside-emacs "eshell"), and Tramp could
optionally add "tramp:2.5.0-pre" to inside-emacs-extras sometime before
the function is called. Other parts of Emacs could add extras as well
(and at some point remove them, I suppose). Do you think something like
this would make sense given how Tramp works internally?



  reply	other threads:[~2020-04-04 20:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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     [not found] ` <20200402230536.E0A3F20CDD@vcs0.savannah.gnu.org>
2020-04-03  8:35   ` INSIDE_EMACS and Tramp (was: master f28166d: Copy INSIDE_EMACS env variable to subprocesses in Eshell (Bug#25496)) Michael Albinus
2020-04-04 14:53     ` Federico Tedin
2020-04-04 15:10       ` INSIDE_EMACS and Tramp Michael Albinus
2020-04-04 20:13         ` Federico Tedin [this message]
2020-04-13  9:07           ` Michael Albinus
2020-04-17 20:16             ` Federico Tedin
2020-05-02 14:54               ` Michael Albinus
2020-05-02 15:39                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-02 16:04                   ` Michael Albinus
2020-05-02 16:17                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-02 16:16                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-02 17:20                 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-05-03 12:33                   ` Michael Albinus
2020-05-03 14:51                     ` Stefan Monnier
2020-05-03 16:08                       ` Michael Albinus
2020-05-03 20:54                         ` Stefan Monnier
2020-05-04  7:08                           ` Michael Albinus
2020-05-04  8:47                             ` Michael Albinus
2020-05-04 15:38                               ` Stefan Monnier
2020-05-04 16:11                                 ` Michael Albinus
2020-05-03 14:52                 ` Federico Tedin
2020-05-03 16:19                   ` Michael Albinus

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