From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.ciao.gmane.io!not-for-mail From: Sacha Chua Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Add community resources to further-information.html Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2020 23:09:24 -0400 Message-ID: <871ro8ux0b.fsf@sachachua.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="ciao.gmane.io:159.69.161.202"; logging-data="6689"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: Stefan Kangas , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Richard Stallman Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Apr 28 05:11:47 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jTGew-0001fo-98 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 28 Apr 2020 05:11:46 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:40660 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jTGev-0006el-Au for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 27 Apr 2020 23:11:45 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:47588) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jTGeJ-00065b-2s for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 27 Apr 2020 23:11:10 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jTGe9-0001US-P6 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 27 Apr 2020 23:11:06 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-qt1-x843.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4864:20::843]:33689) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jTGe9-0001Pe-DU for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 27 Apr 2020 23:10:57 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-qt1-x843.google.com with SMTP id v26so10639080qto.0 for ; Mon, 27 Apr 2020 20:10:57 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=sachachua-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:references:user-agent:date :message-id:mime-version; bh=/XibBdPO4ys2KTBacaAT1X8gSzRKvbJw62zyjsOGYv0=; b=v9XA/r02+qcz83jBoQmV1MayCizRxIMkgwHkmtVn7wUlVbqwTBnzX6fK3L89CUQhae YeU8qXCVV3b20xbwJpMy/njz+2I2JhwBxaMLF7gnQFvws3ypzuTIIKehlBv/wdyTrVqz 2vOy/Z/kBlJ68oboex8Nsu/Dv9MQBU/638KH8HrplCu+GejBo7n1oRZv6vmmR8CjjQvi 4Hs+rr+Zt54i1h3OCa9db+Ep5mbk6jYe94u3ojQzUp+QKdeYCr7u6VBmgFJCtmq9lKAX 392Tj61KBkUjHkUgUelBADdLLlL76n8OKNbtHhRF/mzZzxrKof94CYLO6tmtcPunBJl3 bVvA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:references :user-agent:date:message-id:mime-version; bh=/XibBdPO4ys2KTBacaAT1X8gSzRKvbJw62zyjsOGYv0=; b=pdiHCEsnN8Q0PZME6dhovNXbV0I1IbiTlV63IYjKoOY2oTDx3GRyYLo3NB/6v6tdE1 YB91s1nD+wku6LzyIpXbf9CqxnOQelGg35EwTueC6fzPEEmYwr0z5j9B+L67XI1N+j0J r5QF10h6khY/jlT/BudDyCZWbwpiVyTSFZsct4+Q876p0g7l8DF0NFoztMgRHshAsrW/ Lg1eYy3+ZYf2jH3eKkELFye9JAAEYxUy06zZetGjEMaK4uLrbdb8FTFpVAYZ45fNeXQd AMB9gtxDyzGA5rdaXw+MrH2RgKBPmICcqsVy35ILOf9bRn9XqStoNq8bIdhplN2lc0i2 HmtA== X-Gm-Message-State: AGi0Puake5qZAl5qXDpia+BImF/5xRe4IQG6HQmnu+ahwL4SeZGoGAG0 Pht/KJWLvGBd2ZZ46z+YQu1j+b8rChYZMg== X-Google-Smtp-Source: APiQypKlwx1hAgICoe16eN+9SemaDW5qpL+o9BEA7jCnSMHmo0LTOkvXE6xQgpulMn1bYyX3QkKCqA== X-Received: by 2002:ac8:1a8a:: with SMTP id x10mr26000878qtj.154.1588043456148; Mon, 27 Apr 2020 20:10:56 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from localhost.sachachua.com ([2600:3c03::f03c:91ff:fedf:82c3]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id h2sm12444611qkh.91.2020.04.27.20.10.55 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-ECDSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Mon, 27 Apr 2020 20:10:55 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: (Richard Stallman's message of "Mon, 13 Apr 2020 22:15:56 -0400") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2607:f8b0:4864:20::843; envelope-from=sacha@sachachua.com; helo=mail-qt1-x843.google.com X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: [-] PROGRAM ABORT : Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). Location : parse_addr6(), p0f-client.c:67 X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:4864:20::843 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:247990 Archived-At: (resending with proper SPF) Hello, Stefan, rms! I realized I forgot to cc you in my reply: https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2020-04/msg01243.html Here's the text of my reply: Richard Stallman writes: Hello, rms, Stefan, all! > > +
  • Sacha Chua maintains a weekly > > + > href="https://sachachua.com/blog/category/emacs/";>Emacs news > > update.
  • > > +
  • Planet Emacslife is an aggregate of > > recent > > + > href="https://planet.emacslife.com/";>Emacs > > blog posts.
  • > Would someone like to check that each of those three sites has a > general policy of not promoting nonfree programs (neither applications > nor systems) nor helping people use them? > Helping people use Emacs on a nonfree system or with some well known > nonfree program is ok as an exception. (See References in GNU Coding > Standards.) Emacs News gets aggregated into Planet Emacslife, so it's probably okay not to link to that separately. It's cureently a category of my personal blog and I haven't had the time to split it out. I have other blog posts about nonfree programs or systems in my archive, but only my Emacs posts are included in Planet Emacslife. I also post Emacs News updates to the emacs-tangents mailing list, which might be a freer option. Planet Emacslife aggregates a bunch of RSS feeds. In general, I've tried to limit it to people's Emacs categories, but sometimes people don't offer category-specific feeds. In that situation, I include their full feed, so there are also posts unrelated to Emacs. The aggregator lets me blacklist specific posts, I think. I haven't tried that ability yet, and I'm not sure I can take on the responsibility of saying it'll never have a post promoting nonfree programs outside Emacs integrations. Are you okay with the fact that the aggregator itself doesn't promote nonfree programs or systems, even if it occasionally includes blog posts from people writing about stuff they"re interested in? Stefan, thanks for pinging me and thinkkng of this! Sacha -- I didnt't cc emacs-devel in this email so that I don't duplicate content, but you can add it back or reply to the message in the list. Sorry about that! Sacha