From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#41386: 28.0.50; Gnus nnimap OAuth 2.0 support Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2020 23:55:20 +0200 Message-ID: <871rkw62t3.fsf@gnus.org> References: <87v9ienz6c.fsf@gnus.org> <878sf9c69y.fsf@gnus.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="22161"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: fitzsim@fitzsim.org, 41386@debbugs.gnu.org To: Richard Stallman Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Jul 27 23:56:12 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1k0B6Q-0005cM-6r for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 27 Jul 2020 23:56:10 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:49872 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1k0B6P-0006L0-7I for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 27 Jul 2020 17:56:09 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:46940) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1k0B6I-0006KQ-6L for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 27 Jul 2020 17:56:02 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:44368) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1k0B6H-00041N-Th for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 27 Jul 2020 17:56:01 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1k0B6H-0006EI-TS for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 27 Jul 2020 17:56:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2020 21:56:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 41386 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: wontfix Original-Received: via spool by 41386-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B41386.159588693223908 (code B ref 41386); Mon, 27 Jul 2020 21:56:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 41386) by debbugs.gnu.org; 27 Jul 2020 21:55:32 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55914 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1k0B5n-0006DY-Lc for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 27 Jul 2020 17:55:31 -0400 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:55258) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1k0B5m-0006DJ-DE for 41386@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 27 Jul 2020 17:55:30 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=fUHOXroUlDQJgydr1GCGSpxBL05PfM+KWtMHfbH9x6k=; b=Rx+4fdgrBQEzaHQRwELz/Mv1l/ gMhjA9z+ZpZ8sJNrQrbJN+MhUlkFlCxs4ZCqg7RtmSfqZjj+Hb8XhvzQxhCsTuhXjBY+H05oiASU8 29B50RfeY/oL3GVajbbTZc716Z84F08g62SQiDG1ZnlMia0cgaTVxJHNRBwnqiptcgMU=; Original-Received: from cm-84.212.202.86.getinternet.no ([84.212.202.86] helo=xo) by quimby with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1k0B5d-0004z3-JC; Mon, 27 Jul 2020 23:55:24 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Richard Stallman's message of "Fri, 24 Jul 2020 23:49:19 -0400") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:183602 Archived-At: Richard Stallman writes: > > If the Emacs maintainers wants to get involved with Google on this, > > that's fine by me. > > Do you mean, that Eli or Stefan should address this problem in Gnus? > I don't think we can possibly do anything on this. No, I don't expect them to implement this. But somebody has to open a developer account at Google and register the Emacs "application", and that has to be the FSF. They will then be able to generate the API secret key that will then be included, non-secretly, specifically countering the contract you enter into with Google, when you then publish it openly in the Emacs sources. > > My stance is that Google is obviously not doing > > these changes on a good-faith basis, but as a long-term way to shut off > > all avenues of using Gmail without going through the official interface. > > That doesn't seem to be what the Kmail developers think. > > Many Gnus users will be unhappy if it stops working with Gmail. Definitely. But it's not something I can help with. Blame Google. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no