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From: Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor <help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: FW: [External] : Re: Why is defun not executed during load-file?
Date: Mon, 07 Jun 2021 16:41:12 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <871r9d20vr.fsf@zoho.eu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: SA2PR10MB4474E7AF7F5AC57EF39DCEBBF3389@SA2PR10MB4474.namprd10.prod.outlook.com

Drew Adams wrote:

> Mr. Adams also said:
>
>   If you mean use `defmacro' more or something, then let
>   me be clear that I'm NOT suggesting that.  I'm not
>   suggesting that people should define more Lisp macros.
>
>   In general, don't define a macro if a function will do
>               ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>   what you want.
>
>   I just wanted to point out that I think the supposed
>   difficulty or bugginess of defining macros is due partly
>   (largely?) to the fact that we (all of us) write macros
>   much less often than we write functions.

Yeah, but how do you get more experience without doing it?

So then it is all the way back to reality where it is more
difficult and do involve more bugs and more
difficult debugging?

Or should I rephrase it so, macros are more difficult, it
involves more bugs that are harder to fix, except for the
people whose poor judgement and intuition has placed them in
the undesirable situation where they in fact have AS MUCH
experience with defuns as with macros?

Still - doesn't sound right? But difficult to say what Lego
piece is missing. Copenhagen maybe?

-- 
underground experts united
https://dataswamp.org/~incal




  reply	other threads:[~2021-06-07 14:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-05-30 22:48 Why is defun not executed during load-file? Drew Adams
2021-05-30 22:57 ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-05-31  2:05   ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-05-31  2:56     ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-05-31  5:05       ` Drew Adams
2021-05-31 19:20         ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-05-31 19:47           ` Stefan Monnier via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-05-31 20:09             ` Marcin Borkowski
2021-06-07  2:19             ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-06-07  6:27               ` Jean Louis
2021-06-07 14:18               ` FW: " Drew Adams
2021-06-07 14:41                 ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor [this message]
2021-05-31 21:40           ` Example use of macro to minimize and generalize the code Jean Louis
2021-05-31 23:37             ` Michael Heerdegen
2021-05-31 23:59               ` Jean Louis
2021-06-01  0:34                 ` Michael Heerdegen
2021-06-01  0:39                   ` Jean Louis
2021-06-01  0:59                     ` Michael Heerdegen
2021-06-01  1:25                       ` Jean Louis
2021-06-01 14:02                         ` Michael Heerdegen
2021-06-01 16:33                           ` Jean Louis
2021-06-01 16:54                             ` Yuri Khan
2021-06-01 17:24                               ` Jean Louis
2021-06-01 17:57                                 ` Yuri Khan
2021-06-01 18:12                                   ` Jean Louis
2021-05-31 21:45           ` Example use of macro to minimize and generalize the code (2) Jean Louis
2021-05-31 21:48           ` [External] : Re: Why is defun not executed during load-file? Michael Heerdegen
2021-05-31 23:41           ` Drew Adams

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