From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Juri Linkov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Context menus and mouse-3 Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2021 21:56:56 +0300 Organization: LINKOV.NET Message-ID: <871r7yoznr.fsf@mail.linkov.net> References: <20200914061111.3trmuzhdvv7nwdcc@Ergus> <87y2acv2tw.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <87sg0jt7bo.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <871r8123jg.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <87a6mojwu9.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <83im1c6qns.fsf@gnu.org> <87tukvdxvt.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <83k0lq69a2.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="8082"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Cc: philipk@posteo.net, rms@gnu.org, spacibba@aol.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, arthur.miller@live.com, dgutov@yandex.ru, ghe@sdf.org, drew.adams@oracle.com To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Jul 16 21:03:14 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1m4T79-0001pD-Rq for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 16 Jul 2021 21:03:11 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:36690 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1m4T78-0007PF-SV for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 16 Jul 2021 15:03:10 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:45670) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1m4T5k-0005x3-Dz for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 16 Jul 2021 15:01:44 -0400 Original-Received: from relay4-d.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.183.196]:44265) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1m4T5h-0007IA-SI; Fri, 16 Jul 2021 15:01:43 -0400 Original-Received: (Authenticated sender: juri@linkov.net) by relay4-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 8EEADE0007; Fri, 16 Jul 2021 19:01:30 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: <83k0lq69a2.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Fri, 16 Jul 2021 09:51:49 +0300") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=217.70.183.196; envelope-from=juri@linkov.net; helo=relay4-d.mail.gandi.net X-Spam_score_int: -25 X-Spam_score: -2.6 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.6 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:271314 Archived-At: >> Another necessary change to emulate the behavior of modern apps is >> to rebind mouse-save-then-kill to S-mouse-1. >> >> Maybe it's possible to add a delay so that the current binding [S-down-mouse-1] >> could pop up mouse-appearance-menu only after a delay, e.g. 450ms. >> But on releasing S-mouse-1 immediately, it could use mouse-save-then-kill >> as modern apps do. > > Once again, I think lumping such different commands on the same mouse > gesture controlled by some more-or-less arbitrary timeout is not a > good UI. We should avoid that as much as we possible can. Then maybe it could be enabled by the same mode e.g. 'modern-mouse-mode'.