From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: How to debug erratic specializer behavior of generic functions Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2022 00:58:16 +0100 Message-ID: <871qzxm6p3.fsf@gnus.org> References: <871qzx2jrt.fsf@web.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="36813"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: Emacs mailing list To: Michael Heerdegen Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Feb 21 00:58:48 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nLw6K-0009OP-9t for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 21 Feb 2022 00:58:48 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:49640 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nLw6J-0002ki-36 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 20 Feb 2022 18:58:47 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:54236) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nLw5x-0002ka-MF for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 20 Feb 2022 18:58:25 -0500 Original-Received: from [2a01:4f9:2b:f0f::2] (port=50528 helo=quimby.gnus.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nLw5v-0004jb-9Q for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 20 Feb 2022 18:58:25 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=jP3m8C/V76KJKyX/e6Q5CwCGNrtbDb/Knp+gSGh8Uxc=; b=TROIuPiyY0bElNQZL7CPjyf1Is j7dGOk9ByHtqnowSlOTqj9KvMvE1LZ1Buvc/ViHIdf1sJCPV7HG/z70ZyLrcP9T086GACi2mYh6ac EDC5efV8NOJwQ+2M6cITCuGJ97+uIl0iZmy9cP+8lKss5dRegsoAvGGCi7cVMvC2i0JU=; Original-Received: from [84.212.220.105] (helo=giant) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nLw5q-00080m-2z; Mon, 21 Feb 2022 00:58:21 +0100 Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAABGdBTUEAALGPC/xhBQAAACBj SFJNAAB6JgAAgIQAAPoAAACA6AAAdTAAAOpgAAA6mAAAF3CculE8AAAAD1BMVEWJe27Iyb9MR1QN CxL///8ojF86AAAAAWJLR0QEj2jZUQAAAAd0SU1FB+YCFBc3D7CjyccAAAG7SURBVDjLXZOLtYQw CEQJaSBqAwgNROi/tzf56j7dPcbcwJAhUjq+F9F4FqIvKKSSXsB6T8DCKhuc4b4Akb8g1yOnpcCh a5jsPvjpL4lYfYMSWFf7y80Wb8QZxBMQhQYtkMN5qhMp7hdQodjgjbAg4ehllRJWP0DU4h7AbO21 ALR7vJvF8wHh870ExhugKooBToDYAMsQ1MW5Reiy97BGjgTbrKnNZB2gqnScMuVmhbAhermnFEYD eOoVGA2zUH7zrHm4IwCwTWS8SzpSpsppdtkxdUpr1iMX12dFqKkKU86kVbJWz8MFcnVkKlmkTWoN Gq6gN46A07xmD9P2mECQqlwV1mSLfkE9NdDO0gWfxHgAiBCAE99HxpxEqaWe/ZR2oFrRwmpPxjGq mZ4Z0RyxyHfEhVDkqzIBbLDgFH7Js0GioRcVJ8rcT28VY98NzCIj9+C2aALvP2SaC9CqslK1ID8X 6HZ34D3bC9ICQ6ZMCfRwg/iN8PID2Pdwa6BEbN7xRXQftb4R3oWctReIL+AL+n9sV+SjgRQ6593/ gVgglPbcyDcv049Gz2Vjv/oPoJt9Rxj8pNIYEeiM/gHlxYv83DCzmgAAACV0RVh0ZGF0ZTpjcmVh dGUAMjAyMi0wMi0yMFQyMzo1NToxNSswMDowMNcM2RgAAAAldEVYdGRhdGU6bW9kaWZ5ADIwMjIt MDItMjBUMjM6NTU6MTUrMDA6MDCmUWGkAAAAAElFTkSuQmCC X-Now-Playing: Absolute Zero & Subphonic's _DJ-Kicks_: "The Code" In-Reply-To: <871qzx2jrt.fsf@web.de> (Michael Heerdegen's message of "Mon, 21 Feb 2022 00:36:06 +0100") X-Host-Lookup-Failed: Reverse DNS lookup failed for 2a01:4f9:2b:f0f::2 (failed) Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a01:4f9:2b:f0f::2; envelope-from=larsi@gnus.org; helo=quimby.gnus.org X-Spam_score_int: -35 X-Spam_score: -3.6 X-Spam_bar: --- X-Spam_report: (-3.6 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RDNS_NONE=0.793, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:136089 Archived-At: Michael Heerdegen writes: > This happens randomly. Sometimes it's broken from the beginning of a > session, sometimes not, sometimes it breaks later while working. When > it happens, sometimes not all types are affected. Sometimes reloading > my init file fixes the problem, sometimes not. I don't see a clear > pattern. Is this on the trunk? I saw some pretty weird stuff in this area the other day, but I couldn't make heads or tails of it either. But I'm pretty sure that in at least one case, the type I was getting in the defmethod was a symbol-with-position, but I didn't manage to pin it down. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no