From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Michael Heerdegen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: completing-read depricated initial-input Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2022 13:19:34 +0200 Message-ID: <871qvfoce1.fsf@web.de> References: <86r13hubaw.fsf_-_@gnu.org> <86letphfke.fsf_-_@gnu.org> <86mte3lsj2.fsf_-_@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="10805"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: Drew Adams , Christopher Dimech , "eliz@gnu.org" , "monnier@iro.umontreal.ca" , Help Gnu Emacs , "carlmarcos@tutanota.com" To: Arash Esbati Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Jun 23 13:22:08 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1o4KuW-0002bK-RO for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 23 Jun 2022 13:22:08 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:53800 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1o4KuU-0007Mg-UZ for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 23 Jun 2022 07:22:07 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:38900) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1o4KsL-0007LP-Nx for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 23 Jun 2022 07:19:55 -0400 Original-Received: from mout.web.de ([217.72.192.78]:40507) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1o4KsJ-0007Go-K4; Thu, 23 Jun 2022 07:19:53 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=web.de; s=dbaedf251592; t=1655983176; bh=TjM3V3pPOuTL35ufJkFsWR48j8pzgCQ+j0+SBGx/AMM=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To; b=Y/IkbpkCMWyDU2R9s63JblaDiAxiAAPFkthunhs483oMWHUiHHP9sDnhFjMyM1n+K HR/c0pljLypDWqL5tHgh6fodjOyx9/U+fvqv1hZEpLoMlQ23CsdBFmpIZJRy8+XnAb cL5j0Vbgb6UJbzJWGGKuCOMDD3NWF0IwCCB6De0M= X-UI-Sender-Class: c548c8c5-30a9-4db5-a2e7-cb6cb037b8f9 Original-Received: from drachen.dragon ([88.66.201.45]) by smtp.web.de (mrweb106 [213.165.67.124]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1MumJF-1nndMp0ofD-00rbnM; Thu, 23 Jun 2022 13:19:36 +0200 In-Reply-To: <86mte3lsj2.fsf_-_@gnu.org> (Arash Esbati's message of "Thu, 23 Jun 2022 09:59:13 +0200") X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:IRM22AdAzC5pOH/8pub970pCX5WQJFm4Ej7PY5Q7NlkNEHv+cKI QXypc1TF9VeUlG0cCcKm0bc1t84JCbGXihpLhFwcv6tmzbY8RSeMCg6DbE4+zmUvEZ8jiQy AzKQR+e3BZM2FfAgmwd67fzaErLLHoJwOiQpr25IM5EnQaz+bI5/GkukyR+l3ofIF7RfCp4 uBay92Cd3qf2RPYguM/PQ== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:evx7JIuPKtE=:cjGUa1bsRrrRWC3/0i0Ifp YwanbitHmp98Lho8k5q0HJ6vm59QS753HcNBV/OmUvKHy4UFjWr4GQapXX4d7m9050f/0/Dgy m8PXhVx170Ga2NiyiTIpJdXTdnTm9DUv5FrAsMZ2SoMAN85d9bGPaPFw29HNg44J/Y1I5RJc7 yOzPQPPAqH8A9Zu2bMrNoKSgnC7v4rbPaTg5x3NMmBmYuDgxpxEzaiGU9fYbPKktH+sH6ag0b h/Iw6E3rdOVXVxBO2XjjiRNyvmfpDl4OJIw21Vaxl6a0dSA6go3+UYQ2w12DeEhWwL+OAMYgb LRBQPbIPqEr7ZswFkaeGjmnDx0Pmq7nNCxfcTyygMU8tIBNmChL4aKEGba0r2YYb4dYHwCCOv qhaUZeb80htL5fo0I6BupUpN7YsgoS7sk+LpZG/9wnuYDVP4a/PZIqzNG4w/NhERFc22siipF QHrLkby5VniJMYvPi6cM/OokQXTaS4J/lBF6PeK7h5KT5s/IA9/vZHteC3eBSmlLwLw7tBOGq yQ5HBekMhTz1nGe3LgHYrUF8pUo971Sk2RyLbv/83muEXR2+GoMX+22TbvATbutEjzehB0Vcg Ip14U+l94L4MW4HOzgqzuY3LrRWxv7obNRAgg9BuMFX6nknm2k6rSbQI0hGnf/Q89JiJy49gZ pw1t335ZqMMhIQQcakZtOHmxT1vto+PPaF1ypJqUpjKoLOECIeIAZW/oOxWCqjLB3T2mwi7iv x2nMLymyMeHnqo1ZnYHv6Jc2J8UpWCKf79fkU/EGDp4HBTa4/v9vf9T1cAHfn3wkAYjqA7/4 Received-SPF: pass client-ip=217.72.192.78; envelope-from=michael_heerdegen@web.de; helo=mout.web.de X-Spam_score_int: -27 X-Spam_score: -2.8 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.8 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:138011 Archived-At: Arash Esbati writes: > Note the terms "mostly-deprecated", "discourage", "recommend", > "superseded". So maybe the docstring of `completing-read' should be > adjusted to the statements above in order to avoid confusion? The purpose of `completing-read' is a bit different from `read-string' and `read-from-minibuffer'. Providing INITIAL-INPUT is useful for the latter, but much less for `completing-read' in my opinion. If at all (anybody who has a believable real-life example?). Michael.