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[173.56.234.28]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id m16-20020ac84450000000b0034361fb2f75sm865155qtn.22.2022.09.09.12.28.47 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Fri, 09 Sep 2022 12:28:47 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <83pmg4bcjt.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Fri, 09 Sep 2022 21:57:58 +0300") X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 09 Sep 2022 16:12:30 -0400 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:242036 Archived-At: > I did the research. Good, I believe you. Given it took me six weeks to make those changes, I suspect your research took at least a few hours. So it'd be an additional hour of your copious time (you're a trust fund kid like me, right?) to present a minimum reproducible example of Commercial Emacs being guilty of, and I quote, "disabling those features _always_, not just when lines are long." Sheesh, I even made a goshdarn youtube video explaining my approach. You want proof? Okay: src/emacs -Q src/xdisp.c I trust you'll find no gui features missing between it and GNU Emacs. I would further show that my changes do not include ones which, and I quote, "are plain wrong," but it's much harder to prove the non-existence of bugs (wouldn't that be nice) than it is for you to prove their existence. I was being facetious earlier about being hopping mad. Now not as much.