From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stephen Berman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: 29.0.60; keymap-local-set and keymap-global-set became less strict Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2023 11:08:41 +0100 Message-ID: <871qnbnhhy.fsf@rub.de> References: <5876987d-2479-f512-5767-218c8c16a909@daniel-mendler.de> <875ycngyji.fsf@gnus.org> <87zg9zvzuc.fsf@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="10663"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Cc: Lars Ingebrigtsen , Daniel Mendler , emacs-devel@gnu.org, Stefan Monnier , Eli Zaretskii To: Robert Pluim Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Jan 31 11:10:05 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1pMnaX-0002bz-Pl for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 31 Jan 2023 11:10:05 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pMnZk-0000AD-2Q; Tue, 31 Jan 2023 05:09:16 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pMnZi-00009m-1c for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 31 Jan 2023 05:09:14 -0500 Original-Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.15.15]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pMnZg-0001WC-8J; Tue, 31 Jan 2023 05:09:13 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=gmx.net; s=s31663417; t=1675159723; bh=iIGiGQYFn7pTds95UUJXdvpXhe4gOWwylI+aOL77eNY=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date; b=Do7VNqe6IbvwnrUuLjor3Bu7KRPA1GUxAluFtgdiRXBi9YpiIko8mIo07cb/ax/3K XKY1vnfQzoGAQPjn7cPQamgC+5eiF23wE1qM9sblWPLyAm+VsjUQuQlJ/HGkP3MM0h TT0ISSZ+KjB2u5OcM4JDf/6kobk19CiU8boq2ILHytebHua2K+lXouPoogpz3tcnsA YPBviiIJQJJbsCMP+lQ/uecLxt4PFIqt/BnP/j2YWbi5lxUoI5GRGbqSGdsVuik6u1 MAwaqlrt+GF7bglaeJwIWqRxsbZLlGeHUNcEnR4D9RNaDfHV98jmw9pD6ocdPmdXoe 9jovwPCe0lapQ== X-UI-Sender-Class: 724b4f7f-cbec-4199-ad4e-598c01a50d3a Original-Received: from strobelfs ([89.246.36.69]) by mail.gmx.net (mrgmx005 [212.227.17.190]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1MXGvM-1p8xfh0VKg-00Yfpw; Tue, 31 Jan 2023 11:08:43 +0100 In-Reply-To: <87zg9zvzuc.fsf@gmail.com> (Robert Pluim's message of "Tue, 31 Jan 2023 10:05:15 +0100") X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:tFu3tXMUcjiGAl8uf01iqHXz/PF+o2vqzhY0oLD/DbaFu1gY7B8 vXMxxWN0S7rPROkUB1/gyK9ip43vHfhTjnuhMxS1hnfFRlWso9GXKC2ByD7km/mnR2rDN42 51kUT4YXAcdoSOJIuZpVXts4SGGXrqnDK6SiMtmmBIDJfQ+IKXIQhw5BUeyybI9xQk7Xu0B qTGqgd98aj5BW4gkji1RA== UI-OutboundReport: notjunk:1;M01:P0:FYXz6Yu55vs=;khzLopTScMZioCODW6+qNnHHEWD bfWeT20+SVZkYC4+QqMCxqEQCuFH0WendSsVDZBLG2mUsn8i5eF3UjeMgun7+SrDdWzFToSFA fppEXSxsFuAgbfn3dBGwRW0XUc3+BaQ2J6dqWOc/mtGzOSFZ88BSy19QB1nNr0Emu/PBXl4Nh zMVMuPWlVh52Pi94y9SKtRoln5OonvUymRUikjokLT7dkhAV7BzlMoB7b/mhzIKcbk6zQTxx6 IKl0HHsSBlACt0KkpMEI0ktkk7tkrEaCU7rM6mm2QCKLcpddlwUH9LxHkh/uWMOJF0e5+Sghs ZKIzeTttSihQBdTAqzVsvCOO3d5zIPzGE2PrNfiZYxGmYpXRv+NhByOW38F4J+KF+RBGrvafd MaIQpSfloXNeXHEp8v1bPDzy97hX+N6Umho/51BNa4DMdbZLj9BfMknzcinJrzJBZKZlhPG/0 TKU8Scup9yHD043HHDmmeRuFGdG37J7N35Wv0n6jfdaAzeymqGBj/z7MnFNFFkCVsEA7YcY4v yoLNmdBO8HvYXRtk/hC8bS2iGIZ43X7bAkm0wWqNLdgNyheZmOZ99Q8aeIja9kMOuplw2IHKX 9/xk7ulnPEXoMCKiRiZYmNZpXPG6xKKWGhpOQ86YKTSBkttsStrKb6aVOWDkGQh/4Odtfv7Yf YRKTFscBWSXDn48LxBb1oh4XMJEPwTNsup8JkrIXx64DNNNRsrh/ON9Saq/pWvysB/7BnehhP csMdmxlrd0CSuMqP35MaKhZyoNG0ygyx2QpQM5VCDFs38/WsuwSPbz1iONozUwQSTbS0ZmVS Received-SPF: pass client-ip=212.227.15.15; envelope-from=stephen.berman@gmx.net; helo=mout.gmx.net X-Spam_score_int: -27 X-Spam_score: -2.8 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.8 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:302822 Archived-At: On Tue, 31 Jan 2023 10:05:15 +0100 Robert Pluim wrote: > Dropping bug-gnu-emacs, adding emacs-devel > >>>>>> On Tue, 31 Jan 2023 04:42:25 +0100, Lars Ingebrigtsen said: > > Lars> In addition, having one single syntax allows people to grep for= bindings > Lars> etc -- when exploring the source code, they can isearch for `C-= c C-k' > Lars> (or whatever) exactly and reliably find the command they're loo= king for > Lars> that way (eventually). > > We have bindings in emacs currently that are Not Compliant=E2=84=A2, that= =CA=BCs > for sure. > > Lars> So keymap-local-set and keymap-global-set should be fixed to be= strict > Lars> again, otherwise there's not much point to the entire `keymap-*' > Lars> exercise. > > OK. How about this then (why are the `cursor-in-echo-area' shenanigans > necessary? I wonder if that=CA=BCs a bug, since without them we either get > the cursor not showing in the minibuffer for > `read-key-sequence-vector', or we get an extra space displayed by > `read-command') TIL cursor-in-echo-area :-). This looks to me like a good solution (though aesthetically I would add a space after the colon in the read-key-sequence-vector prompt, even though the user input doesn't appear there). Steve Berman