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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:308871 Archived-At: --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thierry Volpiatto writes: > Philip Kaludercic writes: > >> Thierry Volpiatto writes: >> >>> Philip Kaludercic writes: >>> >>>>> No don't worry, helm will work in any cases, thanks. >>>> >>>> OK, in that case I'd prefer to keep it the way it is. >>> >>> Ok, fair enough. >>> >>>>>> Mainly to avoid issues with packages that might place files in the >>>>>> configuration directory, which might hinder the reproduction of bugs. >>>>> >>>>> Hmm, maybe, I don't have an example in mind though. >>>> >>>> It might not be the best example, but my package autocrypt generates a >>>> file in the `user-emacs-directory'. If we don't use --init-directory, >>>> the existing file would be re-used. >>> >>> Ok, for such case it is easy to either rename the file temporarily to >>> foo_ori or foo_save or to set the variable handling the file (generally >>> it is not harcoded) to something else. But another issue is if your >>> isolated package needs the history file or tramp file or whatever file >>> ~/.emacs.d is handling; e.g. a package providing completion on history. >>> I still think it is more handy to reuse user-emacs-directory and its >>> elpa directory where the packages are already installed. >> >> How about this patch, that will use a temporary directory when >> `package-isolate' is invoked with a prefix argument (not sure what the >> default should be, I guess reusing `user-emacs-directory' is less >> surprising): > > However it is not working properly: > > Tried to isolate two packages, osm and w3m, and osm use compat as > dependency: > > Unable to activate package =E2=80=98osm=E2=80=99. > Required package =E2=80=98compat-29.1.4.0=E2=80=99 is unavailable Forget it, it is working properly, just forget you had modified package--dependencies as well. 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