From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Michael Albinus Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: w32-notification-notify and HAVE_DBUS Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2023 12:37:18 +0200 Message-ID: <871qfr1k81.fsf@gmx.de> References: <878ra062ua.fsf.ref@yahoo.com> <878ra062ua.fsf@yahoo.com> <83o7iwppth.fsf@gnu.org> <87zg2g4ms0.fsf@yahoo.com> <83lee0pksl.fsf@gnu.org> <87v8d43r29.fsf@yahoo.com> <833507ptv3.fsf@gnu.org> <87bkev4ok5.fsf@yahoo.com> <83msyfoak8.fsf@gnu.org> <877cpj4m3t.fsf@yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="6352"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Cc: Eli Zaretskii , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Po Lu Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Aug 25 12:37:52 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1qZUCN-0001RB-Lm for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 25 Aug 2023 12:37:51 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qZUC1-0006iE-H2; Fri, 25 Aug 2023 06:37:29 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qZUBz-0006ht-Pw for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 25 Aug 2023 06:37:28 -0400 Original-Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.15.18]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qZUBx-0007ab-EQ; Fri, 25 Aug 2023 06:37:27 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=gmx.de; s=s31663417; t=1692959839; x=1693564639; i=michael.albinus@gmx.de; bh=Els5ZU8I+dNkQZUiW/HGyoSf4wMwVgPXQLlpUWgFxXg=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date; b=FeaUns9ALgMgWCQ5OYC4rjRtjlVDIFR0FFySGZkCdcoijYxUH5wSJLKqoeQsFWCHKAOTeSq EBBBiW3cp58tH6GrZVxJkU7eiWyQPF2/gBKL+x6A1kSjrseg9K+aHYzFt6/dvYrvaq4WwDj6W OnJMGgwWAKujrTOOzC6bi977xqlJqWl+R+3qEaYMl0793VUFAdc6Pw11Qhuy8OIORAnBP6EXJ An/gxM71tKkdx8nWNOA+da7nn6OpSjsfzsechrJEgPtq5recXUveLCwtDfYtHkMGZRU6XT++a dvj5R+3FotYvr+pCegB8nmcuEnMYu3e82ff0BSOxfPYcERE7+fog== X-UI-Sender-Class: 724b4f7f-cbec-4199-ad4e-598c01a50d3a Original-Received: from gandalf.gmx.de ([185.89.39.16]) by mail.gmx.net (mrgmx004 [212.227.17.190]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1MVNAr-1qB79c1rlv-00SMnI; Fri, 25 Aug 2023 12:37:19 +0200 In-Reply-To: <877cpj4m3t.fsf@yahoo.com> (Po Lu's message of "Fri, 25 Aug 2023 15:28:22 +0800") X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:XOKrnk3lgh9D/evjlgq1p0xE177dvhzrv+a2t5RpWVnzIlHkvLC gkx7r7PEOmqfl9x+tmsNAj38xZdaFEyKXyoguwj8uxBqWccDghFaXQI+lCmhOHhqFAqnjWm G16tBJ13aV6JZ75JDzDZ6dXV854SIPy+3Bdf1nMr0/NP8rpwP+7AFdbVQgpwaIbiXuCbggj UFb3WGdksChRjpQu6bzvQ== UI-OutboundReport: notjunk:1;M01:P0:7DwFqzrUqB4=;7Yi9w8gX26BQz0OCFGD1K2ayJmy 0EkKtFcw/DAMWgKp+xuN9t6ciXL4KHQzpY0VIJMrQx4lPjJLj1L6G5DPRCCbQWaUnluFuJYqj Um0sTg+/JvmLE007BvnuRPfo/dp0ZauT8TOKUp3nZ74Sk3ASvglXJ2L4ibICgf37uH460TVNJ COcRhaRsX8btLDxH/57g2TRyfeGv5NVunkFEeTXxGeYo/dxqzR8QSPYhgvsfVPbJIsz4ZDtjI p46zngwJcHsxcc909HDsXJyn2+s/bO/+p+jH78Zo0ih7eiE/0VzVuXGF3K2GLmqtJvlh0JlLQ UT5lOGt1l2svjd0qtKA5iXGH9AKqlMU+oD7x61WtUkcNiBqJnrDkFVlc0kMz6irV5J2KeXBDf xusfbQRfuDv+S//JsFBEgBrODr8aueiQnmS0wdzaGj1oCJRqCcVPe6IUACaHWuP1H1wgFQwm0 +yWwJAgD2UXpnIyGgAqnMDOeELFe1nhmOJ59T4Ig2sOSLvA993ZrhzUBhHtzHTxFt2v7rfl+/ 5F66r+WQNCvGDn7P6tACNrRKkfmPmRLttvzbXAjAoMcKys6RiiDchaJ6Imz7NZr2QRRcO7dtv OkPP+fXAcoRRWwEJRCahPWawQIHGnUym6pE/xbom4PnbBRvrYX5Om+tn4QRWvZM3R/OtJs2Gv dl8FGiOvVa8fz4Gz5ldrgjIy4hedGZ+Nr8yEwyBgcvd1RKW8mIUVFul14VxJqTekUH8ijRNLU kcA4M/mxb+RnSuAsZo4Z0blgQvML/TIO7V+Q0iZsvLlzHntQTzkmF/x+fNv5FpKVCsS25RI3 Received-SPF: pass client-ip=212.227.15.18; envelope-from=michael.albinus@gmx.de; helo=mout.gmx.net X-Spam_score_int: -27 X-Spam_score: -2.8 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.8 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:309213 Archived-At: Po Lu writes: Hi, >> You can tell them that they don't want w32-notification-notify when >> D-Bus is available, since the latter is superior, AFAIU. > > D-Bus doesn't supply desktop notifications, it's just a remote procedure > call system. For desktop notifications to function, an X desktop > environment is also required, and those aren't available on MS Windows. I don't believe that an X desktop is mandatory. All what's needed is a D-Bus session service "org.freedesktop.Notifications" under MS-Windows. How it is implemented doesn't matter. I don't know the D-Bus implementations under MS-Windows, perhaps they are based on X desktop. But this would be an implementation detail, and not an D-Bus requirement. JFTR. Best regards, Michael.