From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Po Lu Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: master 72b1379f079: Increase `emacs-lisp-docstring-fill-column` to 72 Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2024 17:45:22 +0800 Message-ID: <871q9tnaod.fsf@yahoo.com> References: <170687730547.552.9673193819426474611@vcs2.savannah.gnu.org> <20240202123506.0CEC7C0EFF5@vcs2.savannah.gnu.org> <87mssjm0ac.fsf@yahoo.com> <87il36mevf.fsf@yahoo.com> <87il368cqh.fsf@dataswamp.org> <87a5oim1ql.fsf@yahoo.com> <86cyte3p4t.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="6347"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Feb 03 10:46:43 2024 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1rWCbi-0001T0-W4 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 03 Feb 2024 10:46:43 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rWCb4-00025I-GH; Sat, 03 Feb 2024 04:46:02 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rWCak-00024W-3V for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 03 Feb 2024 04:45:54 -0500 Original-Received: from sonic317-34.consmr.mail.ne1.yahoo.com ([66.163.184.45]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rWCae-0000b3-1l for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 03 Feb 2024 04:45:37 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s2048; t=1706953533; bh=x4SQWqRkFaqcsQMtMPXeoq82Z09E+tVwwj8xp263vV8=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date:From:Subject:Reply-To; b=isom/mFI8Y91xQmu9ptOje1CtWfapnBG2oGy0iS5/WHNQMBoiZIBs8oZp81uAvNUtDAP2fapdDGirjVggmRs55gi+TZPRKyATy6QHttO5p08UNH+7YeTJT6Eqxdyds/4FNHA+zfIH6UH7ziGZA9WZUmj9Ow97iGwlMu8AP44C02PQCOWiNPh8NtINF055u5CTQNaws/33Zxka+rwtHV+sSwq2S2gYwvosrDub3YA+oYbBZH0CSKn8bWrC0yeDEhyD9Qql0dwptsnHK887e8pkgIgD75DOPLqycTDpLvdbGi6ti945q9Un/O6cVZFrUoWlK0IZvBdj65i6+PZoaIgrw== X-SONIC-DKIM-SIGN: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s2048; t=1706953533; bh=sHJXqXA60lsqiX2DfXEs7A5HEa/6XaBu9qFs2g1xdF/=; h=X-Sonic-MF:From:To:Subject:Date:From:Subject; b=JFYWHDrAgE/QsmfAoiTgWctc3qZWabKtV6Iz2B63qCABSRKWX2GcniXAyPvR0hfHbF+VpGYkZghlVcW0QildltB3UMK6vDf7NWxpbIBMFYdF8t2omrbjmbcCe05xlMuODaB1t1i1iR3ygYQ58Kr2l1jVsi+/6jj9gERSb0jmxOgY0FUWtU6MQDkaYKaQehXYQrP2eguTXF+QJkYMwn7d69TZEGMkIuoffwa9b3c/8gjkjpZm0UKlXjGZbJyI/nU9qXuea+BYcpqOzN1BfJeJ5U7eLgvulkSLnC3KOidjxwDZ4Z9mjsUx+Mka/smkb+ihePGQyI3uLqanVM2QnCdHRA== X-YMail-OSG: bUr0elsVM1lmVUOlobPIV09b5GYl.59QWNrdwVlytYb1UUzbe9R1mKttp.CCnvt odfaRQ1sVV7rqfz6ek4yXGtBVkSmiir3h1RK_f6FAPZohO0FG9CehYWj_Abz.8LemEzFAYpwvbTY fAvPCMZNWXABilIdw2wt1p7y.IMrUn0RxYdNVFRnj3gSyAjKHU9NMPB7oYVH5.V9ojwk7g4LmwIE 2jP.nHdWrSMmTND.G4fQf7rwv2NOwsBPyCg1Kyd9xktE5y.ocZv8gJjrHgPmLA22Toqxoim.BRb1 B91wz1V6AKHpnXYYA4SO1Sqjx97AdjmRvFD7ioybPEvxdsJAytKJzaKiOff6jYWvvweZ4smQbENG lUmn2kWQWgHpfgZUCN6iGZgNnvQ5KFEOAe1Q8wWkOmWixSTKlrRRF7c4vLxIq3ifiVfiLPINfeIN teQ6Kx5KDn51qNka22ATHraD6t0CfiTi38VBa9SfF9ULkGBA5m_OjVfJbeto02LRYMfXQeMPMCjy .9kyGsuPAKs5BxwT_fb2fNTMRbRdOkBA4AXKg.DvYFh8sxSD2fge3HIA8epm3xWqGq_YxxwFfRrs BFLum3mEIZHtPmqZwuZ3A_DRGkbMzxrp9Y1RoXy5dhAN5MpFBwPBjTyr7WaJrEKvnDQZDBz6RsxL qrvbdCCQCMqG3jZV2NnE_Ck0tGgHC2EvR9VzC2TiifNMbdzhu8A6jr7rVWM3DJJLYsCXjaB4_uFl m3TSWj06xmKkR9hNLw6lvMHTe2f6BrWtuYLBDojJtUhpxAPre.HYGc2x6PImJwigg7pstSg8LBOt C3dy_cAPwix8i_BWVEM9G8d0XY39OJXEXLit7rBHG9 X-Sonic-MF: X-Sonic-ID: c122a532-d115-48a0-86c6-b682aeb1b402 Original-Received: from sonic.gate.mail.ne1.yahoo.com by sonic317.consmr.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with HTTP; Sat, 3 Feb 2024 09:45:33 +0000 Original-Received: by hermes--production-sg3-6dc75bc8fb-qvr7d (Yahoo Inc. Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID ce0221fb82cddb890537cc3931b7bda5; Sat, 03 Feb 2024 09:45:28 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: <86cyte3p4t.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sat, 03 Feb 2024 10:53:22 +0200") X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.22046 mail.backend.jedi.jws.acl:role.jedi.acl.token.atz.jws.hermes.yahoo Received-SPF: pass client-ip=66.163.184.45; envelope-from=luangruo@yahoo.com; helo=sonic317-34.consmr.mail.ne1.yahoo.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:315801 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> From: Po Lu >> Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2024 15:43:46 +0800 >> >> What problems came of the old value of 64, so urgent that it was >> necessary to install this change (which, let us not forget, affects >> _all_ Emacs users) on such short notice? > > And what problems do you envision from the new value? Doc strings in old code will be a different width from those in new code, and more difficult to read on mobile phone displays, which were bizarrely stated as part of the change's rationale in the commit messages. > I'm surprised that you are opposed to something that has close to no > effect on the doc strings. It sounds like another bikeshedding to me. Its effect will become visible over time, we simply don't know what they will be, and could all have benefited from some advance notice.