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From: Daniel Mendler via "Emacs development discussions." <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
To: Dmitry Gutov <dmitry@gutov.dev>
Cc: Zhengyi Fu <i@fuzy.me>,  Spencer Baugh <sbaugh@janestreet.com>,
	emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: unwind-protect within while-no-input
Date: Sun, 12 May 2024 10:50:33 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <871q67za5i.fsf@daniel-mendler.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4220bb78-9bb3-4b46-b674-ac0d2ef9c9f0@gutov.dev> (Dmitry Gutov's message of "Sun, 12 May 2024 04:59:22 +0300")

Dmitry Gutov <dmitry@gutov.dev> writes:

> Hi Daniel,
>
> It's good to see you in this thread.
>
> On 12/05/2024 01:08, Daniel Mendler wrote:
>
>>>> Is cape-wrap-noninterruptible from the cape package helpful?
>>> It should help, but it would be odd if any non-trivial completion function would
>>> need to use cape to function inside corfu-mode reliably.
>> cape-wrap-noninterruptible and similarly cape-wrap-silent and
>> cape-wrap-purify are meant as stop gap measures, used to wrap non-robust
>> Capfs, until they are improved. There are multiple Capfs in the wild
>> which regularly print messages or throw unexpected errors. For example,
>> pcomplete-completions-at-point even modified the buffer until Emacs 29,
>> which could be mitigated with cape-wrap-purify.

> What's your recommendation regarding the necessary cleanup inside the
> while-no-input block?

This is a general question, which applies to all situations where
asynchronous exceptions (or user interrupts) occur. One basically has to
protect all critical sections with (let ((throw-on-input nil)
(inhibit-quit t)) ...), which locally disables the exceptions.

Global state manipulations which should not be interrupted, should be
guarded. Most of the Emacs code isn't written in such an exception-safe
way. That's usually okay, as long as the state can still be recovered
somehow after an interrupt by the user. For example if buffer-local
state gets invalid, killing and reopening a buffer will solve the
problem.

However inside Capfs or other code which is very often interrupted,
greater care is necessary. Inside such a critical section, the cleanup
code could be registered somewhere, such that it doesn't get lost. The
cleanup code itself should likely be guarded too.

Daniel



  reply	other threads:[~2024-05-12  8:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-05-03 12:45 unwind-protect within while-no-input Spencer Baugh
2024-05-07 18:05 ` Spencer Baugh
2024-05-07 18:49   ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-05-07 19:43     ` Spencer Baugh
2024-05-08  3:59       ` Po Lu
2024-05-08 11:42         ` Michael Heerdegen via Emacs development discussions.
2024-05-08 11:47           ` Michael Heerdegen via Emacs development discussions.
2024-05-08 13:44             ` Spencer Baugh
2024-05-08 16:13               ` Michael Heerdegen via Emacs development discussions.
2024-05-08 17:18                 ` Spencer Baugh
2024-05-08 20:43                   ` Michael Heerdegen via Emacs development discussions.
2024-05-09 12:57                     ` Spencer Baugh
2024-05-09 14:13                       ` Michael Heerdegen via Emacs development discussions.
2024-05-08 12:12           ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-05-08 12:36             ` Michael Heerdegen via Emacs development discussions.
2024-05-08 11:52       ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-05-08 13:57         ` Spencer Baugh
2024-05-08 14:18           ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-05-08 14:38             ` Spencer Baugh
2024-05-08 15:06               ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-05-08 15:14                 ` Spencer Baugh
2024-05-08 18:51                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-05-08 19:28                     ` Spencer Baugh
2024-05-09  5:46                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-05-09 13:07                         ` Spencer Baugh
2024-05-09 17:41                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-05-11  9:48                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-05-11 10:37                             ` Eshel Yaron
2024-05-11 10:42                           ` Zhengyi Fu
2024-05-11 21:45                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-05-11 22:08                               ` Daniel Mendler via Emacs development discussions.
2024-05-12  1:59                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-05-12  8:50                                   ` Daniel Mendler via Emacs development discussions. [this message]
2024-05-12 11:49                                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-05-14 21:30                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-05-26  2:49                             ` Stefan Monnier via Emacs development discussions.
2024-05-26 15:36                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-05-26 18:00                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2024-05-26 22:56                                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-05-29  0:39                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2024-05-29  1:17                                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-05-08 20:34                     ` Michael Heerdegen via Emacs development discussions.
2024-05-08 16:17               ` Michael Heerdegen via Emacs development discussions.
2024-05-26  2:47   ` Stefan Monnier via Emacs development discussions.
2024-05-26  4:36     ` Stefan Monnier
2024-05-26  4:55     ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-05-26 18:12       ` Stefan Monnier

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