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From: Sean Whitton <spwhitton@spwhitton.name>
To: Jonas Bernoulli <jonas@bernoul.li>, 73853@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#73853: 31.0.50; Should and-let* become a synonym for when-let*?
Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2024 08:49:57 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <871pzye7nu.fsf@melete.silentflame.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87ed3zndd6.fsf@bernoul.li> (Jonas Bernoulli's message of "Tue, 29 Oct 2024 16:21:57 +0100")

Hello,

I think that you are overstating the level of disagreement.  A lot of
the discussions we have been having have been academic.  We all agree
that the legacy single binding syntax should be removed (I noticed that
you didn't use that syntax anywhere in transient.el, when I updated it).

The only question then is how exactly to deprecate that syntax.  There
is not complete agreement on the method of deprecation.  But there never
was going to be: it was a case where a head maintainer just had to make
a choice about it, as Stefan did.

Those who disagree are often tempted to say that there should have been
more discussion.  But it is reasonable to think about whether it is
likely that further discussion would yield additional truth.  I think it
was clear to us here that, in this case, it would not.

And indeed, instead of pointing out some critical point that you think
we missed concerning this deprecation, in your message you instead wrote
about highly abstract issues in design.

The specific reason this change had to be backed out before has been
addressed, in the interim.  It was the time to do this.

-- 
Sean Whitton





  parent reply	other threads:[~2024-10-30  0:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-10-17 16:27 bug#73853: 31.0.50; and-let* is useless Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-10-17 16:40 ` Drew Adams via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-10-18  2:11 ` Michael Heerdegen via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-10-18 23:42   ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-10-19  3:50     ` Michael Heerdegen via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-10-21  7:07     ` Augusto Stoffel
2024-10-21  8:57       ` Michael Heerdegen via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-10-21 12:09         ` Sean Whitton
2024-10-19  3:38   ` Sean Whitton
2024-10-20 12:24     ` Stefan Kangas
2024-10-22 14:47       ` bug#73853: 31.0.50; Should and-let* become a synonym for when-let*? Sean Whitton
2024-10-22 15:24         ` Michael Heerdegen via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-10-23 14:05           ` Stefan Kangas
2024-10-24  8:51             ` Sean Whitton
2024-10-25 12:09               ` Sean Whitton
2024-10-30  9:42                 ` Michael Albinus via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-10-26 19:25           ` Jim Porter
2024-10-27  7:08             ` Stefan Kangas
2024-10-27  9:16               ` Michael Heerdegen via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-10-27 10:12                 ` Michael Albinus via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-10-27 11:24                   ` Michael Heerdegen via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-10-27 11:32                     ` Sean Whitton
2024-10-27 11:44                     ` Michael Albinus via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-10-27 12:28                       ` Michael Heerdegen via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-10-27 13:10                         ` Sean Whitton
2024-10-27 13:22                         ` Michael Albinus via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-10-28  9:39                           ` Michael Heerdegen via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-10-27 14:41                 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-10-28 13:58                   ` Michael Heerdegen via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-10-28 14:32                     ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-10-27 20:00                 ` Drew Adams via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-10-28  2:15           ` Howard Melman
2024-10-28  3:19             ` Sean Whitton
2024-10-29 15:21 ` Jonas Bernoulli
2024-10-29 16:36   ` Drew Adams via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-10-30  0:49   ` Sean Whitton [this message]
2024-10-30 12:55   ` Corwin Brust

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