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From: Peter Dyballa <Peter_Dyballa@Web.DE>
To: Markus <mnissl@gmx.de>
Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: File name completion on Mac OS X with German umlauts
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 00:21:18 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <871273C0-5F66-4978-9B38-57BB99354B0F@Web.DE> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <fr1ln8$8jb$1@registered.motzarella.org>


Am 09.03.2008 um 22:44 schrieb Markus:

>> You could launch Aquamacs Emacs in Terminal, too:
>>     /Applications/Aquamacs\ Emacs.app/Contents/MacOS/Aquamacs\  
>> Emacs -nw
>
> Here, typing ü yields to ??

Is Terminal set into UTF-8 encoding? Is Aquamacs Emacs set into UTF-8  
"mood?" What value have LC_CTYPE or LANG in Terminal's shell  
environment? And finally: the Emacsen before 23.0.60 only "emulate"  
UTF-8 somehow.

You might try again, adding also a -Q to the invocation, with  
Terminal in some ISO Latin encoding (ISO 8859-15 for example) and  
also set LC_CTYPE to this value.


>>> So, can't the autocomplete within Emacs work because it doesn't  
>>> work under Terminal?
>> This is not really likely. The Emacsen do not use a shell based  
>> mechanism to expand a file name. Nevertheless, both failures can  
>> be related to the same cause: apple uses in HFS+ decomposed  
>> Unicode characters. This means that your file's name starts with  
>> ru¨ ... Have you tried
>>     C-x C-f r u TAB
>
> Yes, I knew this. This also works for Terminal. But hey: this is  
> the year 2008, Emacs 22.x and Mac OS X 10.5 ... I expect German  
> umlauts to work.

The umlauts are handled somehow in text – but HFS+ is something  
different. Emacs.app, the Cocoa/GNUSTEP implementation of GNU Emacs  
23.0.60,can't handle such file names. Or apple's own tools! Have you  
tried, just for fun or proof of apple's mis-concept, to attach your  
file to an eMail and typed ``r ü´´ in the form to find your file at  
once? In Finder itself it works better ...

GNU/Linux can be a better choice than Mac OS X.

--
Mit friedvollen Grüßen

   Pete

  "A designer knows he has arrived at perfection not when there is no  
longer anything to add, but when there is no longer anything to take  
away."
				– Antoine de Saint-Exupéry







  reply	other threads:[~2008-03-09 23:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-03-09 11:53 File name completion on Mac OS X with German umlauts Markus
2008-03-09 14:39 ` Peter Dyballa
2008-03-09 15:22 ` Nikolaj Schumacher
     [not found] ` <mailman.8596.1205073587.18990.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2008-03-09 21:44   ` Markus
2008-03-09 23:21     ` Peter Dyballa [this message]
     [not found]     ` <mailman.8623.1205104885.18990.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2008-03-10 18:57       ` Markus
2008-03-10 21:01         ` Peter Dyballa
     [not found]         ` <mailman.8673.1205182919.18990.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2008-03-10 21:25           ` Markus
2008-03-10 22:49             ` Peter Dyballa
     [not found]             ` <mailman.8682.1205189384.18990.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2008-03-11 21:24               ` Markus
2008-03-11 22:14                 ` Peter Dyballa
     [not found]                 ` <mailman.8727.1205273706.18990.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2008-03-13 22:11                   ` Markus
2008-03-13 23:11                     ` Peter Dyballa
     [not found]                     ` <mailman.8870.1205449910.18990.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2008-03-16 12:51                       ` Markus
2008-03-16 14:21                         ` Peter Dyballa
     [not found] ` <mailman.8598.1205076134.18990.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2008-03-09 21:47   ` Markus
2008-03-12 15:44     ` Nikolaj Schumacher
2008-03-12 18:46       ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-03-12 21:25         ` Nikolaj Schumacher
2008-03-12 21:55           ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-03-12 23:23             ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-03-13  4:28               ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-03-13  8:18                 ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-03-13 13:49                   ` Nikolaj Schumacher
2008-03-13 14:17                     ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-03-13 14:18                       ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-03-13 20:10                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-03-13 21:03                     ` Juanma Barranquero
     [not found]                     ` <mailman.8859.1205442242.18990.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2008-03-13 22:09                       ` Markus
2008-03-13 23:08                         ` Peter Dyballa
     [not found]         ` <mailman.8794.1205357174.18990.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2008-03-17 14:07           ` Piet van Oostrum
2008-03-17 16:44             ` Nikolaj Schumacher
2008-03-17 20:24               ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-03-18 18:05                 ` Nikolaj Schumacher

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