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From: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: 21305@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#21305: 25.0.50; `get-buffer-window-list' doc - what order?
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2015 08:08:25 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <870b6a90-e498-4ed9-9e41-d498edf33aec@default> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <<83oai0iwbc.fsf@gnu.org>>

> > > The order is unspecified, which means the caller should not
> > > depend on it.  I don't think there's anything wrong with that;
> > > do you?
> >
> > Well, it's certainly the prerogative of designers to decide that
> > the order is undefined and that users cannot depend on it.  In
> > that case, you can close the bug now.
> >
> > But as one user I'm disappointed.  I was hoping for a usable
> > window order.
> 
> It's the order of traversing the window tree depth-first (as
> described in the ELisp manual under "Cyclic Window Ordering").

If so, then the order is not undefined.  (It's a design decision
whether Emacs wants to commit to supporting this order or just
tell users that the order is undefined, keeping its options open.)

> I don't see how saying that would be of any help to users of this
> function.

Well, it apparently won't help me in my quest for a chronological
ordering of windows for the same buffer by access time.

But I think it would be helpful to tell users that the order is
the same as that described in `Cyclic Window Ordering'.

> Describing the order would require a non-trivial amount of text, so
> without a good reason, I don't think we should add it.

How is it more difficult than saying that the order is the same as
that specified in `Cyclic Window Ordering', and xreffing that node?

Perhaps I'm missing something.  And I will leave it up to you to
decide what, if anything, should be said about the order.  Thanks
for thinking about it.





       reply	other threads:[~2015-08-21 15:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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     [not found] ` <<83oai0iwbc.fsf@gnu.org>
2015-08-21 15:08   ` Drew Adams [this message]
2015-08-21 15:21     ` bug#21305: 25.0.50; `get-buffer-window-list' doc - what order? Eli Zaretskii
     [not found] ` <<55D74386.6010708@gmx.at>
     [not found]   ` <<7036da11-d296-45a9-b6ee-d7b68830927e@default>
     [not found]     ` <<55D74AA3.1070202@gmx.at>
     [not found]       ` <<1b17a036-c525-4dbc-84fa-cc8adc2b6488@default>
     [not found]         ` <<50fbb71c-8a6d-45b4-a467-a31bcc73ac09@default>
     [not found]           ` <<a18faa5f-a31e-49c2-809b-64fdd40fa273@default>
     [not found]             ` <<55D8195A.4040804@gmx.at>
     [not found]               ` <<9aa1dcd7-1781-41aa-bf47-7b280b26da1e@default>
     [not found]                 ` <<jwvoahziaao.fsf-monnier+emacsbugs@gnu.org>
     [not found]                   ` <<cf171405-a9e3-4312-b456-ff68352d4052@default>
     [not found]                     ` <<83a8tji626.fsf@gnu.org>
2015-08-22 19:01                       ` Drew Adams
2015-08-23 22:34                         ` Stefan Monnier
     [not found] <<870b6a90-e498-4ed9-9e41-d498edf33aec@default>
     [not found] ` <<83mvxkis5t.fsf@gnu.org>
2015-08-21 15:28   ` Drew Adams
2015-08-21 18:28     ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]   ` <<b7c7a7fe-1e8a-4add-8585-1698e16348cf@default>
     [not found]     ` <<83lhd4ijh3.fsf@gnu.org>
2015-08-21 19:18       ` Drew Adams
     [not found] <<089f48ed-6ce9-4753-abcf-3f86d43a278e@default>
     [not found] ` <<83vbc8iyut.fsf@gnu.org>
2015-08-21 13:21   ` Drew Adams
2015-08-21 13:51     ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-08-21 15:28     ` martin rudalics
2015-08-21 15:30       ` Drew Adams
2015-08-21 15:58         ` martin rudalics
2015-08-20 17:49           ` Drew Adams
2015-08-21 12:56             ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-08-21 16:12             ` Drew Adams
2015-08-21 16:32               ` Drew Adams
2015-08-21 17:42                 ` Drew Adams
2015-08-22  6:40                   ` martin rudalics
2015-08-22 14:31                     ` Drew Adams
2015-08-22 16:01                       ` Stefan Monnier
2015-08-22 17:23                         ` Drew Adams
2015-08-22 17:30                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-08-23 13:33                         ` martin rudalics
2015-08-21 16:00           ` Drew Adams

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