From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#14192: 24.3.50; recursive edit while running ispell not working usefully Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2024 11:09:52 +0200 Message-ID: <86zfwr87mn.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87hajbkd3v.fsf@web.de> <87ppxzd75p.fsf@web.de> <87mstc5zpt.fsf@web.de> <83o7drj8r7.fsf@gnu.org> <87r0ikln9b.fsf@web.de> <83h6jgfmwi.fsf@gnu.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="39291"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: 14192-done@debbugs.gnu.org, stefankangas@gmail.com To: michael_heerdegen@web.de Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Jan 27 10:11:05 2024 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1rTeiO-000A2l-Mo for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 27 Jan 2024 10:11:04 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rTeiG-0001vf-ET; Sat, 27 Jan 2024 04:10:56 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rTeiF-0001v5-7e for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 27 Jan 2024 04:10:55 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:5::43]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rTeiE-0000UZ-VJ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 27 Jan 2024 04:10:54 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1rTeiL-00069N-TN for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 27 Jan 2024 04:11:01 -0500 Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2024 09:11:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: cc-closed 14192 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: moreinfo Mail-Followup-To: 14192@debbugs.gnu.org, eliz@gnu.org, michael_heerdegen@web.de Original-Received: via spool by 14192-done@debbugs.gnu.org id=D14192.170634660823573 (code D ref 14192); Sat, 27 Jan 2024 09:11:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 14192-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 27 Jan 2024 09:10:08 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53447 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1rTehT-000689-P0 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 27 Jan 2024 04:10:08 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:52478) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1rTehS-00067D-FG for 14192-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 27 Jan 2024 04:10:07 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rTehG-0008Rw-6z; Sat, 27 Jan 2024 04:09:54 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=UCGqIZ7Az+bjHZS7u2kqYOjyhq/Ggw8UPIt5qt8c4HI=; b=KBpnIeT+CEJD ZvF9ZL9BLFdUhEsLg3BXmk5NY4erlvDoxiMR9uS0L5ogx3yXTvxDTvxU9m8opIC3TaFiphk6CeYei CcMc20ZbL8zzKiNKltfWex22eGEtiVzJK/fof16+dskkIAAIu5vzE4RIyKs4qwmHnAhksFRaGAopk CJSWmU9zIs3S7djAuT2nwzMi3/3no3+vRWxCIf9AZLi/sxyrab/bYOtKUxJ3H5PIhwhfEuH9/RUi9 tj4WuqYTxfFga56FoMcQMsIxoK/PnxqxvkzS5bxPK6vQl0RBeSEPFrUlzMnyDF1LP5tSVaxThRzaz aAa8xWodiB3wLgWTnGyHeQ==; In-Reply-To: <83h6jgfmwi.fsf@gnu.org> (message from Eli Zaretskii on Sun, 14 Jan 2024 08:29:33 +0200) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:278975 Archived-At: > Cc: 14192@debbugs.gnu.org, stefankangas@gmail.com > Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2024 08:29:33 +0200 > From: Eli Zaretskii > > > From: Michael Heerdegen > > Cc: Stefan Kangas , 14192@debbugs.gnu.org > > Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2024 02:25:20 +0100 > > > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > > > > FTR: C-r indeed was not meant to be used to modify the misspelled > > > word. ispell.el has 'r' and 'R' commands for that. C-r is for > > > consulting the rest of the text, without modifying it and without > > > disrupting the spelling session. An alternative is to type 'X', make > > > any modifications you want, and then resume spelling with "C-u M-$". > > > > Thanks - especially for your concretizations of the spell checking > > related parts in the user manual. > > > > I find it an a bit obscure design that there is C-r that reverses edits, > > then X, which allows to resume the session, and C-g, which doesn't allow > > resuming. Maybe less commands would suffice. But I don't use ispell > > often, I can't really tell whether the interface is intuitive, and > > nobody else seems to be interested in this topic. > > I'm not opposed to patches to maybe make the C-r scenario less > surprising. But in general, C-r is an obscure command in this case; > it isn't an accident that it was not even documented in the user > manual until recently. The alternatives described above are IMO > better. > > > So, if we don't get any other replies until some more time has passed, > > I'm ok with closing this one. > > Will do in a week or two. Done.