From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Subversion of user chosen major mode by Emacs. Date: Thu, 30 May 2024 08:51:45 +0300 Message-ID: <86zfs7rgni.fsf@gnu.org> References: <86r0dmtbk2.fsf@gnu.org> <63afa31a-7874-4d1f-a17a-14a64ba516cb@gutov.dev> <4197c4a8-ee12-4fa7-9201-4d26f3be59c6@gutov.dev> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="34943"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: acm@muc.de, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Dmitry Gutov Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu May 30 07:52:02 2024 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1sCYhm-0008u9-2N for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 30 May 2024 07:52:02 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sCYha-00009w-7T; Thu, 30 May 2024 01:51:50 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sCYhX-00009e-UK for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 30 May 2024 01:51:47 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sCYhX-0007kY-2c; Thu, 30 May 2024 01:51:47 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=VzSXS3cgtROcLrC1xXqWMTRJdzGzqC0o838Zb0KKGSE=; b=WGwaaGCKFwdp GbEMrOj/SZ2LtENUGGAHWvnWZIUd8NMUnJdMo33CPi0L39zC6FoKroeYmpTpOAFt0ydyU25ojY8vR rAWtatRZSBMAmXy7TNaAHS+dgZcMXD2FGyH4lwPjJXu5xDz8rgGzbPchHKHgfdVj+8ma/yX+mEeVu teLhvtIw436DgIGI6L+RPu7sLv7ZQJyjmHaWSo1VW4GN2Fng9wlYbLWZHhlpelkr9dSYpONajlxAq Dw4VoFrqp/xKQOERDXLLnNwf81wtTLIXa8RNGr9ZaMrQK2v1F3d2HY1WyxWq7Yq0MavRSKZ3IKr2t /ai+tbJh16zwP416BA0OYg==; In-Reply-To: (message from Dmitry Gutov on Thu, 30 May 2024 01:10:04 +0300) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:319725 Archived-At: > Date: Thu, 30 May 2024 01:10:04 +0300 > Cc: Stefan Monnier , Eli Zaretskii , > emacs-devel@gnu.org > From: Dmitry Gutov > > > To be honest, I'm surprised that c-ts-mode and friends haven't come to > > have autoload entries for auto-mode-alist, superseding those in CC Mode. > > Perhaps if this had been done, the unpleasantness caused by > > major-mode-remap-alist/defaults could have been avoided. > > IIUC, the current state of affairs is an attempt to balance the needs of > users who want to test out and use the tree-sitter modes with as little > friction as possible, against the needs of older users who can get > annoyed at the switch in the defaults True.