From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Po Lu <luangruo@yahoo.com>
Cc: dmitry@gutov.dev, acm@muc.de, stefankangas@gmail.com,
monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, dancol@dancol.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Proposal: new default bindings for winner and windmove
Date: Mon, 01 Jul 2024 16:34:56 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <86zfr1dym7.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8734ot6y38.fsf@yahoo.com> (message from Po Lu on Mon, 01 Jul 2024 21:28:11 +0800)
> From: Po Lu <luangruo@yahoo.com>
> Cc: Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de>, Stefan Kangas <stefankangas@gmail.com>,
> Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>, Daniel Colascione
> <dancol@dancol.org>, emacs-devel@gnu.org
> Date: Mon, 01 Jul 2024 21:28:11 +0800
>
> Dmitry Gutov <dmitry@gutov.dev> writes:
>
> > People screaming "backward compatibility" for each and every reason
> ^^^^^^
> > can indeed be a problem.
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
> Is this what it comes down to? That certain people, by implication,
> Emacs users, are potentially problems? I would be exceedingly careful
> where I take this discussion from hence.
I really don't understand why you-all keep reiterating the same
arguments, on and on. The real decision about this will not be
affected by repeating old arguments, then posting counter-arguments,
etc. etc. Just let it go. The Emacs maintainers are fully capable of
making the decision without hearing these repetitions. In fact, I'm
pretty sure we've already decided.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-07-01 13:34 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 249+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-08-21 19:10 Proposal: new default bindings for winner and windmove Daniel Colascione
2021-08-21 19:23 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-08-21 19:27 ` Daniel Colascione
2021-08-21 19:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-08-22 8:35 ` Juri Linkov
2021-08-21 19:42 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2021-08-25 13:12 ` Kaushal Modi
2021-08-21 20:20 ` Arthur Miller
2021-08-22 6:02 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-08-22 8:32 ` Arthur Miller
2021-08-22 13:43 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-08-22 0:43 ` Phil Sainty
2021-08-22 5:13 ` Teemu Likonen
2021-08-22 9:22 ` Teemu Likonen
2021-08-21 19:26 ` Arthur Miller
2021-08-22 8:37 ` Juri Linkov
2021-08-22 14:05 ` Arthur Miller
2021-08-22 19:16 ` Daniel Colascione
2021-08-22 17:52 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-08-22 22:01 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-08-23 5:16 ` Bozhidar Batsov
2021-08-24 21:33 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-08-25 3:42 ` Richard Stallman
2024-06-21 19:03 ` Stefan Monnier
2024-06-21 20:39 ` Stefan Kangas
2024-06-23 10:05 ` Alan Mackenzie
2024-06-23 11:14 ` Daniel Colascione
2024-06-23 12:05 ` Alan Mackenzie
2024-06-23 12:30 ` Stefan Kangas
2024-06-23 13:29 ` Alan Mackenzie
2024-06-23 13:34 ` Daniel Colascione
2024-06-23 13:45 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-06-23 20:55 ` chad
2024-06-23 16:32 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2024-06-23 12:57 ` Daniel Colascione
2024-06-23 13:40 ` Po Lu
2024-06-23 13:45 ` Daniel Colascione
2024-06-23 14:15 ` Po Lu
2024-06-23 14:22 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-06-24 7:41 ` Gregor Zattler
2024-06-24 12:13 ` Daniel Colascione
2024-06-24 12:41 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-06-24 15:09 ` Gregor Zattler
2024-06-24 15:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-06-25 1:41 ` Joel Reicher
2024-06-24 15:57 ` Petteri Hintsanen
2024-06-25 21:26 ` Jeremy Bryant
2024-06-26 11:23 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-06-26 11:44 ` Daniel Colascione
2024-06-26 13:19 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-06-26 13:57 ` Daniel Colascione
2024-06-26 15:38 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-06-26 15:49 ` Daniel Colascione
2024-06-28 19:47 ` Hovav Shacham
2024-06-28 20:45 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2024-06-29 7:02 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-07-01 1:58 ` Stefan Kangas
2024-06-26 13:22 ` Alan Mackenzie
2024-06-26 13:51 ` Daniel Colascione
2024-06-26 14:13 ` Po Lu
2024-06-26 14:21 ` Daniel Colascione
2024-06-26 15:15 ` Po Lu
2024-06-26 15:27 ` Alan Mackenzie
2024-06-26 15:42 ` Colin Baxter
2024-06-26 16:00 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-06-26 14:41 ` Joel Reicher
2024-06-26 15:43 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-06-26 14:49 ` Alan Mackenzie
2024-06-26 17:02 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2024-06-26 14:27 ` Stefan Monnier
2024-06-26 15:14 ` Alan Mackenzie
2024-06-26 13:53 ` Po Lu
2024-06-26 14:18 ` Daniel Colascione
2024-06-26 14:48 ` Po Lu
2024-06-26 14:27 ` Stefan Monnier
2024-06-26 14:51 ` Po Lu
2024-06-26 15:01 ` Alan Mackenzie
2024-06-27 15:35 ` Augusto Stoffel
2024-06-26 17:02 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2024-07-02 6:28 ` Visuwesh
2024-06-23 14:28 ` Daniel Colascione
2024-06-23 14:37 ` Po Lu
2024-06-23 14:45 ` Daniel Colascione
2024-06-24 10:35 ` Joel Reicher
2024-06-23 16:32 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2024-06-23 13:48 ` Daniel Colascione
2024-06-23 14:14 ` Telemetry, opt-in,opt-out [was: Proposal: new default bindings for winner and windmove] tomas
2024-06-23 14:18 ` Daniel Colascione
2024-06-23 15:23 ` Stefan Kangas
2024-06-23 15:34 ` tomas
2024-06-23 19:46 ` Stefan Monnier
2024-06-23 21:12 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2024-06-25 14:28 ` [External] : Re: Telemetry, opt-in, opt-out " Madhu
2024-06-25 17:19 ` Drew Adams
2024-06-25 23:03 ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide via Emacs development discussions.
2024-06-28 4:02 ` Richard Stallman
2024-06-28 5:28 ` Telemetry, opt-in,opt-out " Ihor Radchenko
2024-06-28 6:33 ` tomas
2024-06-23 14:25 ` Proposal: new default bindings for winner and windmove Po Lu
2024-06-23 14:38 ` Daniel Colascione
2024-06-23 15:24 ` Stefan Kangas
2024-06-23 15:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-06-23 16:32 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2024-06-23 19:10 ` Gregor Zattler
2024-06-23 13:59 ` Alan Mackenzie
2024-06-23 14:06 ` Daniel Colascione
2024-06-23 16:32 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2024-06-23 18:44 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-06-23 18:51 ` Daniel Colascione
2024-06-23 19:26 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-06-23 19:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-06-23 19:55 ` Stefan Monnier
2024-06-23 21:12 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2024-06-23 20:07 ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-06-23 21:12 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2024-06-23 21:09 ` Drew Adams
2024-06-23 19:52 ` Stefan Monnier
2024-06-23 20:07 ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-06-23 20:23 ` Stefan Kangas
2024-06-23 21:12 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2024-06-24 2:28 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-06-24 10:41 ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-06-24 11:45 ` Po Lu
2024-06-25 2:26 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-06-24 3:29 ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-06-24 4:23 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2024-06-24 7:18 ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-06-24 14:46 ` Drew Adams
2024-06-24 6:32 ` Juri Linkov
2024-06-26 15:48 ` Stefan Monnier
2024-06-26 20:38 ` Alan Mackenzie
2024-06-27 5:16 ` Attitude (was: Proposal: new default bindings for winner and windmove) Eli Zaretskii
2024-06-27 12:19 ` Alan Mackenzie
2024-07-01 1:29 ` Proposal: new default bindings for winner and windmove Stefan Kangas
2024-07-01 10:07 ` Alan Mackenzie
2024-07-01 10:47 ` Po Lu
2024-07-01 11:12 ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-07-01 13:20 ` Po Lu
2024-07-01 18:21 ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-07-02 0:52 ` Po Lu
2024-07-01 11:25 ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-07-01 13:28 ` Po Lu
2024-07-01 13:34 ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2024-07-01 19:05 ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-07-01 21:24 ` Alan Mackenzie
2024-07-01 22:07 ` Daniel Colascione
2024-07-02 1:00 ` Po Lu
2024-07-02 3:26 ` C-o (was: Proposal: new default bindings for winner and windmove) Stefan Monnier
2024-07-02 4:34 ` C-o Po Lu
2024-07-02 5:59 ` C-o Gerd Möllmann
2024-07-02 6:23 ` C-o Visuwesh
2024-07-02 12:51 ` C-o Dmitry Gutov
2024-07-02 13:06 ` C-o Po Lu
2024-07-02 13:39 ` C-o Eli Zaretskii
2024-07-02 14:02 ` C-o Alfred M. Szmidt
2024-07-03 9:24 ` C-o Po Lu
2024-07-03 11:33 ` C-o Eli Zaretskii
2024-07-03 12:15 ` C-o Po Lu
2024-07-02 14:02 ` C-o T.V Raman
2024-07-02 15:36 ` C-o Alfred M. Szmidt
2024-07-02 22:27 ` C-o Michael Heerdegen via Emacs development discussions.
2024-07-02 22:31 ` C-o (was: Proposal: new default bindings for winner and windmove) Stefan Kangas
2024-07-02 22:44 ` C-o Jeremy Bryant
2024-07-03 10:07 ` C-o (was: Proposal: new default bindings for winner and windmove) Per Starbäck
2024-07-03 12:48 ` C-o Howard Melman
2024-07-03 16:24 ` C-o Yuri Khan
2024-07-03 16:32 ` C-o Howard Melman
2024-07-05 4:14 ` C-o Richard Stallman
2024-07-05 4:28 ` C-o Howard Melman
2024-07-03 19:13 ` C-o Bob Rogers
2024-07-02 7:28 ` Proposal: new default bindings for winner and windmove Philip Kaludercic
2024-07-02 11:41 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-07-02 1:01 ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-07-02 1:51 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2024-07-02 2:20 ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-07-02 3:47 ` Drew Adams
2024-07-02 22:41 ` Stefan Kangas
2024-07-02 1:47 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
[not found] ` <87h6d87op5.fsf@dancol.org>
2024-07-02 13:08 ` Alan Mackenzie
2024-07-01 14:43 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2024-07-01 18:12 ` [External] : Re: Proposal: new default bindings for windmove. [Working minor mode] Alan Mackenzie
2024-07-01 18:18 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-07-04 2:26 ` Proposal: new default bindings for winner and windmove Richard Stallman
2024-07-01 23:18 ` Daniel Colascione
2024-07-02 1:02 ` Po Lu via Emacs development discussions.
2024-07-02 2:03 ` Howard Melman
2024-07-02 12:21 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-07-02 3:29 ` Stefan Monnier
2024-07-02 4:14 ` Po Lu
2024-07-02 13:04 ` Stefan Monnier
2024-07-02 13:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-07-02 14:20 ` Stefan Monnier
2024-07-02 14:43 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-07-02 12:18 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-07-02 12:52 ` Daniel Colascione
2024-07-02 13:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-07-02 13:53 ` Daniel Colascione
2024-07-02 14:15 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-07-02 14:41 ` Daniel Colascione
2024-07-02 15:00 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-07-02 22:28 ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-07-03 3:14 ` Hovav Shacham
2024-07-02 6:50 ` Juri Linkov
2024-07-02 8:07 ` Yuri Khan
2024-07-02 16:27 ` Juri Linkov
2024-07-02 11:50 ` Daniel Colascione
2024-07-02 16:32 ` Juri Linkov
2024-07-02 16:47 ` Daniel Colascione
2024-07-02 12:46 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-07-02 13:31 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2024-07-02 18:03 ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-07-02 18:07 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2024-07-02 18:29 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-07-02 18:30 ` Yuri Khan
2024-07-02 20:00 ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-07-02 21:15 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2024-07-02 22:30 ` Drew Adams
2024-07-03 11:56 ` Yuri Khan
2024-07-03 13:53 ` Stefan Monnier
2024-07-03 14:14 ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-07-03 16:15 ` Yuri Khan
2024-07-03 16:26 ` Daniel Colascione
2024-07-03 22:12 ` John ff
2024-07-02 18:34 ` Alan Mackenzie
2024-07-02 19:08 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2024-07-02 19:53 ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-07-02 20:12 ` Alan Mackenzie
2024-07-02 21:13 ` Daniel Colascione
2024-07-03 6:21 ` Juri Linkov
2024-07-02 21:54 ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-07-02 18:37 ` Juri Linkov
2024-07-02 20:03 ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-07-03 6:24 ` Juri Linkov
2024-07-03 13:48 ` Stefan Monnier
2024-07-03 6:56 ` Visuwesh
2024-07-02 7:08 ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-07-02 11:46 ` Daniel Colascione
2024-07-02 13:31 ` Alan Mackenzie
2024-07-02 13:52 ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-07-02 13:55 ` Daniel Colascione
2024-07-02 14:42 ` Alan Mackenzie
2024-07-02 15:36 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
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2024-07-02 23:20 ` Stefan Kangas
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