From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: James Thomas Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Is anybody using "NotMuch" as an email client?, Re: Is anybody using "NotMuch" as an email client? Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2024 14:43:39 +0530 Message-ID: <86zfqjnhks.fsf@gmx.net> References: <668fd123.170a0220.b2745.ceb8@mx.google.com> <877cdsyrt5.fsf@ryzen.jonjfineman.com> <668fd123.170a0220.b2745.ceb8@mx.google.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="24075"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.Org To: Dr Rainer Woitok Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Jul 15 11:14:33 2024 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1sTHmy-000691-HA for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 15 Jul 2024 11:14:32 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sTHmO-00074D-Rn; Mon, 15 Jul 2024 05:13:56 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sTHmM-0006v4-7p for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.Org; Mon, 15 Jul 2024 05:13:54 -0400 Original-Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.15.15]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sTHmG-0000TU-QY for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.Org; Mon, 15 Jul 2024 05:13:53 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmx.net; s=s31663417; t=1721034825; x=1721639625; i=jimjoe@gmx.net; bh=24CHGcUqcaMLTeBNlUR2CMUOPSHTQaqXz9roqW2y+e4=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date: Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:cc:content-transfer-encoding: content-type:date:from:message-id:mime-version:reply-to:subject: to; b=hzjRBNE7MhKiI9CcpvaKN/TPM70GWabNg2IJcbySliJngdszGRsSoaSnOXMGJrwG ts7tX4pllGtR/30WONNWS33KEHnfsQlnvg+9C4siV4x6wvtAXgN6CJXxoDOu7Ao// hdyvlP1il4f8r1mkro4hbbG/bp9xm26C6nwsPuDIWsSad+Yihfm2T4Hi/sdJotiJ6 YAjPNG/tcJ3iIzyuatOjleDOL+LIslkd5sJyga2mpkCtbtRZRRG8Uk4Rtsp5XlxKi r1pEdMyXd2IV7v4sPeC823LObJEBw7gObrssv6cdjIDGMDoffVRVbCnoikg5Y5dWn uvCNVDE+g6OXPd9DEg== X-UI-Sender-Class: 724b4f7f-cbec-4199-ad4e-598c01a50d3a Original-Received: from user-Inspiron-3493 ([117.212.160.119]) by mail.gmx.net (mrgmx004 [212.227.17.184]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1MwfWa-1s9qFe3F74-01730W; Mon, 15 Jul 2024 11:13:45 +0200 In-Reply-To: <668fd123.170a0220.b2745.ceb8@mx.google.com> (Rainer Woitok's message of "Thu, 11 Jul 2024 14:33:37 +0200, Fri, 12 Jul 2024 11:23:49 +0200") X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:yQypDdiqKsZmpjZwxTP7bdJHX3AAS6+bWkCULGJtgdNGBAgQN1D OSqUDpNU47UgCRPG8/btNBjhCKmiGo4HvnRVJ/h8DmkfRV8ugXKVrnbgTbks5P21j8VG0qf jwB4e1ZBx8yW/ppMs2l64xfsTh9EX9EnUYAPg0Asw0BLLVb+NJ4QAKiEPmmz3IAD6oDmUPc PpaO6JTHgXTmMDFjfI3QA== UI-OutboundReport: notjunk:1;M01:P0:QysmQTai4hw=;6RSPuiDKOASLLOEJUYBgrD4mW2R JLZQVGp7AMcOEgv1PpjdViGFHLeItqyO14VRQ9loHScsGMAdX+ANVluy+/BDEibZ9IZixk9nD j0AgxZm2XSCJ2p5E1CNCN70GkDoZKjSqWDDP5cSMFxTEMBdJz1UzfI03g6bT+vCTWuTdAnwCn TAqSwCl649ib+FLFYjM1Esd+KaJFAe74e6LC63swwowizrVqkI3so6VFeztWicg7/QKLXJfLa yEX9mTMjTyx9GZhXl72feBWweEflf1uv+2yM72NFOgQFWbHjFKb42VvJp3njS6I16HWkmhobD ymbCV0W3FBfWL9mzQPSWG9k9wkgIwiSppskPPQfLUU4RGemTAKqkBF4MwfBb7Lp3/ovg9Bbm1 zeLU35p9Zd3EhglAnF0rT285QlhO3eA60a00UBkIrVK1eU6Jt1oxaEaxhbQWj0IGd7kMuymwp S4vSxjo0SSSqfsRqOHxxF9b4hn60rgsoe8xPCvsoW70TTWx0m+0hlwictabvwRLtJvXQJ7/mA P/g+SgKa/L1W+CxxRRH1QF5QernlvK04VMoiViWidOKlASunc8cjnn0Pal5TlAtuFdd2os/1U CPaj72K6KIwdagBtTjoHmdOSJP3SJCvDnRsRR3p0lEoeiE8qH5dhUY9DS18a48KY7bStczxf0 0JBrhHFYSAkwj2Q2LN8H5rCphvQ7Bnf/MVLI6Ei6oTyrZdo8LYJWzFe8enj3DJ8ar13pX+V6g LwKTodfT/neKOyzfCC/QSJ3y7RgY81b/Rh+VrjiSahfjUXaKbdK402wJcd+iFpOItoxkLl2l Received-SPF: pass client-ip=212.227.15.15; envelope-from=jimjoe@gmx.net; helo=mout.gmx.net X-Spam_score_int: -27 X-Spam_score: -2.8 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.8 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, T_SPF_TEMPERROR=0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:147214 Archived-At: Dr Rainer Woitok wrote: > Greetings, > > currently I'm using "Rmail" for processing my email. It works, but it > also is rather spartan sometimes. Somewhere someone mentioned "NotMuch" > but from searching the Internet, I'm not yet sure it is what I want. You probably want Gnus. But it'll take some work: > Currently I'm using the traditional approach of storing related mails in > "mbox" type mail files. Rather infrequently I have the need of search- > ing all mails in an mbox for a string or regular expression. You should be able to do that in Gnus; I haven't tried it myself, but it has an mbox backend. For new ones indexing (gnus-search-notmuch is one option) will be much faster. > Apart from reading and writing mails I need to reply, to forward and > occasionally to resend mails. This works pretty much the same way in Gnus and the other options. > As for downloading attachments, it's mostly enough to download them > one by one but sometimes I want to download them all in a single > sweep. This is possible in Gnus using nnimap-fetch-partial-articles: it must be possible to combine it with (info "(gnus) Agent Categories") for specific kinds of emails, in advance. Manual download on viewing is possible anyway, and see gnus-mime-replace-part for updating. For storing mails offline you can enable the 'agent': If you think you'll download some of the attachments only at a later viewing and want to update the version stored offline (and of course, if this is an important factor) you should add gnus-agent-unfetch-articles and gnus-agent-fetch-selected-article to the appropriate hooks (and there's also gnus-agent-eagerly-store-articles to play with). It's a little hard, but from my experience, if you do it right you may never need to switch email clients again. Regards, James