From: Joel Reicher <joel.reicher@gmail.com>
To: emacs-tangents@gnu.org
Subject: Re: 10 problems with Elisp, part 10
Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2024 14:27:28 +1100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <86zfmosy8v.fsf@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <877c9wvfyz.fsf@dataswamp.org> (Emanuel Berg's message of "Fri, 25 Oct 2024 08:44:52 +0200")
Emanuel Berg <incal@dataswamp.org> writes:
> No, I think the frustration, IIRC, ws because
>
> (1) No one else was enthusiastic about making Elisp better, in
> part for its own sake, to make och try to make Emacs a Lisp
> powerhouse up there with CL and Clojure (and others); and
To my mind that's a bit like saying make a mouse trap better by
making it more like a bear trap.
By all means make elisp better, but don't compare it to languages
that are used for different things.
> (2) even more so, I was frustrated with that boasting,
> functional programming is superior (absolutely not true),
> Lisp is built-in superior to other languages, Lisps syntax
> is an advantage, Lisp programs are short and elegant (yes,
> sometimes, before they get too long, e.g. gnus-sum.el [13
> 239 lines], Lisp programmers have a better mental
> understanding of their programs compared to other
> programmers and their sorry languages.
Different languages are good for different things. Saying one
language is better than another only makes sense if they are being
used for the same thing, and only in the context of that thing.
I like Lisp, but I wouldn't use it for everything.
Regards,
- Joel
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2024-08-04 22:27 Emacs website, Lisp, and other Jeremy Bryant
2024-08-04 22:55 ` Emanuel Berg
2024-08-05 4:29 ` Emanuel Berg
2024-08-05 9:23 ` Christopher Dimech
2024-08-05 10:43 ` Emanuel Berg
2024-08-05 11:37 ` divya
2024-08-05 11:56 ` Christopher Dimech
2024-08-05 12:33 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-08-05 11:45 ` Christopher Dimech
2024-08-05 12:56 ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2024-08-05 13:16 ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2024-08-05 14:46 ` Christopher Dimech
2024-08-05 21:28 ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2024-08-05 14:55 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-08-05 12:28 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-08-05 16:27 ` 10 problems with Elisp, part 10 (was: Re: Emacs website, Lisp, and other) Emanuel Berg
2024-08-05 16:38 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-08-05 17:03 ` Emanuel Berg
2024-08-05 18:32 ` 10 problems with Elisp, part 10 Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2024-08-05 20:20 ` Emanuel Berg
2024-08-06 7:14 ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2024-08-06 7:21 ` Org mode API (was: 10 problems with Elisp, part 10) Ihor Radchenko
2024-08-06 8:23 ` Org mode API Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2024-08-10 16:55 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-08-06 11:54 ` 10 problems with Elisp, part 10 Eli Zaretskii
2024-08-08 2:01 ` Richard Stallman
2024-08-09 22:39 ` Emanuel Berg
2024-08-13 1:28 ` Richard Stallman
2024-08-09 22:46 ` Emanuel Berg
2024-08-10 5:41 ` Emanuel Berg
2024-08-10 6:09 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-08-13 1:28 ` Richard Stallman
2024-08-05 18:58 ` 10 problems with Elisp, part 10 (was: Re: Emacs website, Lisp, and other) Christopher Dimech
2024-08-05 19:30 ` 10 problems with Elisp, part 10 Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2024-08-05 20:02 ` Christopher Dimech
2024-08-08 2:01 ` Richard Stallman
2024-08-06 2:28 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-08-05 17:13 ` 10 problems with Elisp, part 10 (was: Re: Emacs website, Lisp, and other) Yuri Khan
2024-08-06 6:39 ` Emanuel Berg
2024-08-06 11:16 ` Richard Stallman
2024-08-06 22:08 ` Emanuel Berg
2024-10-23 19:25 ` Jean Louis
2024-10-23 21:13 ` Emanuel Berg
2024-10-23 21:36 ` Jean Louis
2024-10-25 6:44 ` Emanuel Berg
2024-10-28 3:27 ` Joel Reicher [this message]
2024-10-24 6:48 ` 10 problems with Elisp, part 10 Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide via Emacs news and miscellaneous discussions outside the scope of other Emacs mailing lists
2024-08-05 20:03 ` Emacs website, Lisp, and other Alan Mackenzie
2024-08-05 21:07 ` Christopher Dimech via Emacs news and miscellaneous discussions outside the scope of other Emacs mailing lists
2024-08-06 7:42 ` Jean Louis
2024-08-06 11:14 ` Immanuel Litzroth
2024-08-05 11:56 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-08-06 19:09 ` Jeremy Bryant
2024-08-06 19:50 ` Christopher Dimech
2024-08-06 20:35 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2024-08-06 22:10 ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2024-08-06 22:48 ` Christopher Dimech
2024-08-06 23:09 ` Drew Adams
2024-08-06 23:21 ` Christopher Dimech
2024-08-07 1:09 ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2024-10-23 19:45 ` Jean Louis
2024-10-23 20:25 ` Drew Adams via Emacs news and miscellaneous discussions outside the scope of other Emacs mailing lists
2024-10-23 20:50 ` Jean Louis
2024-10-23 21:21 ` Drew Adams via Emacs news and miscellaneous discussions outside the scope of other Emacs mailing lists
2024-10-23 21:37 ` Jean Louis
2024-08-06 22:26 ` Christopher Dimech
2024-08-07 5:45 ` Emanuel Berg
2024-08-15 3:53 ` Madhu
2024-08-15 5:50 ` Emanuel Berg
2024-08-15 9:17 ` Madhu
2024-08-15 9:57 ` Emanuel Berg
2024-10-23 19:48 ` Jean Louis
2024-08-15 6:17 ` Emanuel Berg
2024-08-15 7:10 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-08-15 8:06 ` Emanuel Berg
2024-08-15 9:27 ` Emanuel Berg
2024-08-15 16:03 ` Emanuel Berg
2024-10-23 19:52 ` Jean Louis
2024-10-23 19:41 ` Jean Louis
2024-10-24 6:39 ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide via Emacs news and miscellaneous discussions outside the scope of other Emacs mailing lists
2024-08-07 11:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-08-07 12:03 ` Andrea Corallo
2024-08-07 12:16 ` Christopher Dimech
2024-08-08 2:01 ` Richard Stallman
2024-08-08 6:51 ` Joel Reicher
2024-08-07 12:31 ` Christopher Dimech
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2024-08-06 17:38 10 problems with Elisp, part 10 Abraham S.A.H. via Emacs development discussions.
2024-08-07 7:44 ` Emanuel Berg
2024-08-07 11:30 ` Christopher Dimech
2024-08-07 18:57 Abraham S.A.H. via Emacs development discussions.
2024-08-07 20:46 ` Sebastián Monía
2024-08-08 4:58 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-08-08 5:40 ` Christopher Dimech
2024-08-08 6:00 ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide via Emacs news and miscellaneous discussions outside the scope of other Emacs mailing lists
2024-08-09 7:08 ` Emanuel Berg
2024-08-09 8:21 ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2024-08-09 8:36 ` Emanuel Berg
2024-08-09 10:46 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-08-09 22:27 ` Emanuel Berg
2024-08-09 13:47 ` Eduardo Ochs
2024-08-09 14:03 ` Emanuel Berg
2024-08-09 22:47 ` Bob Rogers
2024-08-09 23:21 ` Emanuel Berg
2024-08-10 5:56 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-08-11 2:12 ` Richard Stallman
2024-10-23 20:11 ` Jean Louis
2024-10-23 20:06 ` Jean Louis
2024-10-29 13:42 ` Abraham S.A.H. via Emacs news and miscellaneous discussions outside the scope of other Emacs mailing lists
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