From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: A wish, a plea Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 15:16:57 +0200 Message-ID: <86y7icgmd2.fsf@lola.quinscape.zz> References: <4679F561.4030600@hacksaw.org> <87d4zomyiw.fsf@red-bean.com> <87fy4kjy0k.fsf@red-bean.com> <467AF6CC.2000300@gnu.org> <86ejk4jtno.fsf@lola.quinscape.zz> <877ipwqtg9.fsf@red-bean.com> <86ejk4i2gn.fsf@lola.quinscape.zz> <467BC5CC.3030506@gnu.org> <86645gi1ay.fsf@lola.quinscape.zz> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1182518230 4295 80.91.229.12 (22 Jun 2007 13:17:10 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 13:17:10 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Karl Fogel , wilde@sha-bang.de, Eli Zaretskii , hacksaw@hacksaw.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Jason Rumney Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jun 22 15:17:07 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1I1j0c-0004Aw-T2 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 22 Jun 2007 15:17:07 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1I1j0c-0006tK-8A for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 22 Jun 2007 09:17:06 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1I1j0X-0006r0-Ku for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 22 Jun 2007 09:17:01 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1I1j0V-0006nl-FC for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 22 Jun 2007 09:17:00 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1I1j0V-0006nS-7e for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 22 Jun 2007 09:16:59 -0400 Original-Received: from pc3.berlin.powerweb.de ([62.67.228.11]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1I1j0U-0001lb-L2 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 22 Jun 2007 09:16:59 -0400 Original-Received: from quinscape.de (dslnet.212-29-44.ip210.dokom.de [212.29.44.210] (may be forged)) by pc3.berlin.powerweb.de (8.9.3p3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA19754 for ; Fri, 22 Jun 2007 15:16:51 +0200 X-Delivered-To: Original-Received: (qmail 8197 invoked from network); 22 Jun 2007 13:16:57 -0000 Original-Received: from unknown (HELO lola.quinscape.zz) ([10.0.3.43]) (envelope-sender ) by ns.quinscape.de (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 22 Jun 2007 13:16:57 -0000 Original-Received: by lola.quinscape.zz (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 95B3EF9DD1; Fri, 22 Jun 2007 15:16:57 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: <86645gi1ay.fsf@lola.quinscape.zz> (David Kastrup's message of "Fri\, 22 Jun 2007 15\:08\:53 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/23.0.51 (gnu/linux) X-detected-kernel: Linux 2.4-2.6 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:73618 Archived-At: David Kastrup writes: > Jason Rumney writes: > >> David Kastrup wrote: >>> Being reminded of Notepad and Word is not in itself good or bad. >>> Could you explain where the peskiness lies? >>> >> >> You came up with one good source of peskiness yourself: >> >>> Uh, it has the nasty side effect of starting to write to my disk >>> without asking my confirmation. If I have started several Emacs >>> instances, I don't want them complaining about file locks and similar >>> nonsense just because I use the *scratch* buffer in both. > > I never argued for abolishing the *scratch* buffer (not auto-saved). > And I find it quite appropriate that two instances of modified > *unnamed* buffers (auto-saved) will complain eventually. > > That's inherent in the design if we want to offer buffers that are not > volatile but still basically anonymous. Just noticed that auto-save will disambiguate auto-save files for anonymous buffers. -- David Kastrup