From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Emanuel Berg via help-gnu-emacs Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Is Elisp really that slow? Date: Mon, 27 May 2019 16:30:05 +0200 Message-ID: <86y32sc6mq.fsf@zoho.eu> References: <20190514235412.kncazq45szlum2gr@Ergus> <83v9yb92c7.fsf@gnu.org> <878sv7sp3r.fsf@telefonica.net> <83r28z8zl9.fsf@gnu.org> <20190515210924.sijzy6mnpgzkt4gm@Ergus> <83ftpecwu1.fsf@gnu.org> <20190516161408.4dov3dwk5h4yoizn@Ergus> <838sv6cmwt.fsf@gnu.org> <20190516202327.5cgy2s4kppy3ahxa@Ergus> <871s0yqg2i.fsf@telefonica.net> Reply-To: Emanuel Berg Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="50609"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1 (gnu/linux) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon May 27 16:30:30 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hVGdx-000D09-Gf for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 27 May 2019 16:30:29 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46678 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hVGdv-0004kM-Gu for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 27 May 2019 10:30:27 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:46290) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hVGdl-0004iA-KZ for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 27 May 2019 10:30:18 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hVGdj-0000oK-NM for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 27 May 2019 10:30:17 -0400 Original-Received: from [195.159.176.226] (port=49958 helo=blaine.gmane.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hVGdj-0000lr-HH for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 27 May 2019 10:30:15 -0400 Original-Received: from list by blaine.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hVGdh-000Cfi-6K for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 27 May 2019 16:30:13 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Mail-Copies-To: never Cancel-Lock: sha1:Ma+hmklPySamrB0JVMgj+d6563E= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 195.159.176.226 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:120650 Archived-At: Óscar Fuentes wrote: > The really big problem is that Emacs no > longer compete on areas were it used to bring > the largest gains. Other editors largely > surpassed Emacs' gains while requiring > less effort. :) Big problem! Perhaps time to be content that Emacs appeals to certain users, and will do so even in the future. I guess in particular those who are appealed to Lisp and those who look for a one-program interface to the whole computer, and those who enjoy and have time to do endless tweaking with their software and want to be able to do so in an easy and unified way... And if it doesn't, well nothing lasts forever. -- underground experts united http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573 https://dataswamp.org/~incal