From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Juri Linkov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#51210: Customizable other-window-for-scrolling Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2022 21:45:00 +0200 Organization: LINKOV.NET Message-ID: <86y23kpwlf.fsf@mail.linkov.net> References: <878ryvh6bz.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <861r1v1foe.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <96d50c26-ea56-5ff6-3cc3-25652d744ca4@gmx.at> <86o84revzi.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <86y23vo0zx.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <86sftunptq.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <86a6g2ktel.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <86mtk2jdwy.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <83czky6noe.fsf@gnu.org> <86r19crftb.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <8335ls69cy.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="5756"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Cc: 51210@debbugs.gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Jan 12 20:49:11 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1n7jcN-0001Id-9j for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 12 Jan 2022 20:49:11 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:43504 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n7jcL-0007bT-MY for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 12 Jan 2022 14:49:09 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:33800) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n7jZK-0005bV-Ic for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Jan 2022 14:46:03 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:38050) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n7jZK-0005H0-01 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Jan 2022 14:46:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1n7jZJ-0004S7-SM for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Jan 2022 14:46:01 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Juri Linkov Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2022 19:46:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 51210 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 51210-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B51210.164201676117109 (code B ref 51210); Wed, 12 Jan 2022 19:46:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 51210) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 Jan 2022 19:46:01 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59186 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1n7jZJ-0004Rt-1T for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 12 Jan 2022 14:46:01 -0500 Original-Received: from relay2-d.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.183.194]:40007) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1n7jZF-0004RR-MZ for 51210@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 12 Jan 2022 14:45:58 -0500 Original-Received: (Authenticated sender: juri@linkov.net) by relay2-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 773B140002; Wed, 12 Jan 2022 19:45:50 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: <8335ls69cy.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Wed, 12 Jan 2022 21:29:33 +0200") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:224036 Archived-At: >> >> There are also nice commands: M- (beginning-of-buffer-other-window) >> >> and M- (end-of-buffer-other-window), but for no reason they recenter >> >> the other window after moving to the beginning/end. >> >> >> >> It would be better to remove this disservice: >> > >> > This is age-old behavior. Why change it because you happen to dislike >> > it? >> >> The problem is that with its current implementation, it's unusable: >> when the window height is 75 lines, then typing M- leaves >> half-screen empty. > > If you start typing at the end of the buffer, the half-empty window > will immediately make sense. You can't start typing because it's in another window. > Are you using scroll-conservatively, perhaps? If so, I can understand > why you don't like this behavior. But that's your subjective opinion, > and I see no reason to change this by default. This problem is reproducible in emacs -Q: visit e.g. TODO with 'C-h C-t', split windows with 'C-x 3', and type 'M-'. Then another window is recentered. >> But fortunately this can be fixed since Emacs 28 introduced a new key >> C-M-S-l to recenter the other window, so it's now easy to type it >> when the user needs to recenter the other window. > > Great. So everyone who wants to recenter, can type: 'M- M-C-S-l'.