From: Tim Cross <theophilusx@gmail.com>
To: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org>
Cc: Philip Kaludercic <philipk@posteo.net>,
Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>,
emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: feature/package+vc 04c4c578c7 3/4: Allow for packages to be installed directly from VCS
Date: Sun, 09 Oct 2022 06:02:12 +1100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <86y1tqb0bs.fsf@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <871qris3xb.fsf@gnus.org>
Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:
> Philip Kaludercic <philipk@posteo.net> writes:
>
>> - The ability to install a package directly from source using
>> `package-vc-fetch' (aliased to `package-checkout'). This
>> functionality is ideally VC generic.
>>
>> - The ability to update a package using `package-upgrade'[0]
>>
>> - Package metadata can either be inferred from the package URL (see
>> `package-vc-heusitic-alist') or via explicit hints from an ELPA
>> server. I plan to add the necessary features to GNU and NonGNU ELPA
>> in time so that the heuristics can be avoided.
>>
>> - The ability to (i) contact, (ii) send bug reports and (iii) patches
>> (using the new `vc-patch-prepare') to package maintainers.
>
> Sounds like great functionality, but I wonder whether the security
> implications have been discussed? Today, we use GNU ELPA as a filter of
> sorts and people rely on code there not being compromised.
>
> I assume "hints from an ELPA server" is basically a list of links to git
> repositories? If that's the case, then we may well end up with pointing
> users towards repos that have been compromised.
>
> If we don't have such a list, then adding the basic functionality sounds
> useful anyway -- that is, allowing users to say `M-x
> package-install-from-repo' or something and then they type in the URL of
> that repo -- that's fine, and leaves the security implications to the
> user (where they already are today for people that install from external
> repos).
>
> But if we list these repos in `M-x list-packages', that's a very
> different issue.
I think it is very dangerous to suggest there is ANY security here, even
with GNU ELPA packages.
- There is no formal security review of packages
- There is no review before packages are updated. If a repository is
compromised and that compromise has not been detected, an update can
still occur and introduced compromised code into GNU ELPA.
Far better to just educate users that ANY package they install could
contain malicious code.
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2022-02-14 16:20 ` feature/package+vc 04c4c578c7 3/4: Allow for packages to be installed directly from VCS Stefan Monnier
2022-02-14 20:57 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-02-14 21:25 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-02-14 23:44 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-02-15 2:58 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-02-15 17:13 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-02-15 18:34 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-02-16 22:49 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-02-17 2:56 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-02-17 9:21 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-02-19 16:28 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-02-19 18:35 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-02-19 20:15 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-02-18 8:57 ` Augusto Stoffel
2022-02-18 14:49 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-10-08 15:47 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-10-08 15:58 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-10-08 16:20 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-10-09 14:21 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-10-09 14:34 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-10-09 14:38 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-10-09 15:17 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-10-10 8:01 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-10-10 11:06 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-10-13 16:37 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-10-15 20:43 ` Fetching or installing package dev source from VCS: names Richard Stallman
2022-10-16 8:31 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-10-18 12:05 ` Richard Stallman
2022-10-19 7:04 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-10-19 12:12 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-10-21 19:39 ` Richard Stallman
2022-10-15 20:43 ` package-contact-maintainer Richard Stallman
2022-10-16 8:35 ` package-contact-maintainer Philip Kaludercic
2022-10-16 9:19 ` package-contact-maintainer Stefan Kangas
2022-10-16 11:02 ` package-contact-maintainer Philip Kaludercic
2022-10-15 20:43 ` Fetching or installing package dev source from VCS: manual style Richard Stallman
2022-10-16 13:30 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-10-16 19:47 ` Rudolf Adamkovič
2022-10-16 22:33 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-10-17 22:27 ` Rudolf Adamkovič
2022-10-20 16:46 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-10-21 17:44 ` Rudolf Adamkovič
2022-10-21 19:19 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-10-18 12:04 ` Richard Stallman
2022-10-18 14:03 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-10-19 6:58 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-10-19 11:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-21 22:11 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-10-23 19:11 ` Richard Stallman
2022-10-23 19:11 ` Multiple index entries Richard Stallman
2022-10-23 19:11 ` "Package from Source" Richard Stallman
2022-10-24 16:27 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-10-26 19:18 ` Richard Stallman
2022-10-23 19:11 ` Installation from ELPA Richard Stallman
2022-10-23 19:14 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-24 19:30 ` Richard Stallman
2022-10-24 13:19 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-10-28 21:57 ` Richard Stallman
2022-10-18 12:05 ` Fetching or installing package dev source from VCS: manual style Richard Stallman
2022-10-18 15:04 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-19 7:02 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-10-16 22:18 ` feature/package+vc 04c4c578c7 3/4: Allow for packages to be installed directly from VCS Philip Kaludercic
2022-10-17 5:25 ` Stefan Kangas
2022-10-17 12:16 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-10-17 17:21 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-10-17 21:41 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-10-18 20:45 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-10-18 21:43 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-10-18 20:43 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-10-18 21:40 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-10-19 7:08 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-10-19 12:19 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-10-19 12:29 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-10-19 13:15 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-10-21 21:58 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-10-21 22:34 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-10-22 10:45 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-10-22 14:53 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-10-22 15:06 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-10-23 11:32 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-10-24 13:00 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-10-24 15:35 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-10-24 20:21 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-10-24 20:34 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-10-24 23:57 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-10-26 7:19 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-10-09 23:14 ` Tim Cross
2022-10-08 16:35 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-10-08 17:18 ` Philip Kaludercic
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2022-10-09 12:38 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-10-09 21:36 ` Tim Cross
2022-10-10 22:01 ` Richard Stallman
2022-10-15 15:52 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-10-15 16:22 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-15 17:14 ` Sean Whitton
2022-10-17 12:17 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-10-16 7:10 ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2022-10-16 8:15 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-16 9:29 ` tomas
2022-10-16 10:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-16 11:32 ` tomas
2022-10-16 22:22 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-10-17 6:12 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-17 6:27 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-10-17 6:57 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-10-17 17:23 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-10-17 21:44 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-10-18 20:45 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-10-19 17:02 ` Richard Stallman
2022-10-19 17:06 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-10-24 19:34 ` Richard Stallman
2022-10-20 16:01 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-10-22 19:59 ` Richard Stallman
2022-10-23 9:04 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-10-25 20:13 ` Richard Stallman
2022-10-26 7:11 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-10-26 12:00 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-10-26 15:28 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-10-26 18:36 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-10-26 18:48 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-10-26 18:58 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-10-26 19:27 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-10-26 23:40 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-11-01 16:46 ` Richard Stallman
2022-11-01 17:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-01 17:58 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-11-01 18:35 ` Stefan Kangas
2022-11-01 18:51 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-01 19:04 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-11-01 19:14 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-01 19:26 ` Stefan Kangas
2022-11-01 20:26 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-11-01 22:19 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-11-02 1:23 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-11-02 1:45 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-11-02 8:01 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-11-02 12:49 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-11-02 14:44 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-11-03 3:18 ` Richard Stallman
2022-11-03 14:10 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-11-05 3:13 ` Richard Stallman
2022-11-02 3:32 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-02 8:13 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2022-11-02 3:25 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-02 10:18 ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-11-02 12:45 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-11-02 13:19 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-02 13:00 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-02 13:16 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-11-03 3:17 ` Richard Stallman
2022-11-03 14:09 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-11-05 3:13 ` Richard Stallman
2022-10-28 17:24 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-10-29 15:14 ` Merging feature/package+vc Philip Kaludercic
2022-10-29 15:45 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-10-29 15:39 ` feature/package+vc 04c4c578c7 3/4: Allow for packages to be installed directly from VCS Stefan Monnier
2022-10-29 16:00 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-10-29 16:57 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-10-30 13:06 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-10-30 14:00 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-10-30 14:15 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-10-30 14:36 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-10-30 14:51 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-10-30 14:59 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-10-30 17:58 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-10-30 22:08 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-11-04 18:01 ` feature/package-vc has been merged Philip Kaludercic
2022-11-04 19:12 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-11-05 11:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-05 16:43 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-11-05 17:22 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-06 11:43 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-11-06 12:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-06 15:28 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-11-06 15:37 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-06 15:58 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-11-06 16:06 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-06 16:42 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-11-06 17:05 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-06 17:31 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-11-06 17:37 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-06 18:35 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-11-06 19:03 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-07 8:42 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-11-07 12:07 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-07 16:58 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-11-07 17:07 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-07 17:57 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-11-07 18:10 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-11-07 18:19 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-08 20:15 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-11-08 21:35 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-11-09 8:15 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-11-09 12:41 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-09 17:15 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-11-09 17:49 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-11-09 18:00 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-11-09 18:33 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-11-09 19:04 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-11-09 19:53 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-11-09 20:32 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-11-09 21:21 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-11-09 21:33 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-11-16 15:23 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-11-16 15:56 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-11-16 17:29 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-11-16 17:57 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-11-16 20:05 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-11-16 22:09 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-11-16 23:23 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-11-17 16:41 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-11-16 23:26 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-11-09 19:05 ` Updating the "ELPA Protocol" Philip Kaludercic
2022-11-15 19:58 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-11-15 20:41 ` Stefan Kangas
2022-11-16 7:35 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-11-16 7:54 ` Stefan Kangas
2022-11-16 15:07 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-11-16 15:32 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-11-16 16:46 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-11-16 16:59 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-11-16 17:42 ` Jonas Bernoulli
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2022-11-16 19:20 ` Stefan Monnier
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2022-11-07 1:30 ` feature/package-vc has been merged Stefan Monnier
2022-11-07 3:29 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-07 4:43 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-11-07 11:48 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-08 8:54 ` Stefan Kangas
2022-11-08 21:57 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-11-08 7:15 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-11-08 8:46 ` Stefan Kangas
2022-11-08 20:21 ` Philip Kaludercic
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2022-11-09 8:27 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-11-09 11:03 ` Björn Bidar
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2022-11-09 20:18 ` Björn Bidar
2022-11-09 20:39 ` Philip Kaludercic
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2022-11-11 6:43 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-11-12 3:36 ` Richard Stallman
2022-11-11 18:44 ` Björn Bidar
2022-11-11 19:46 ` tomas
2022-11-12 3:38 ` Richard Stallman
2022-11-12 6:30 ` Björn Bidar
2022-11-12 8:10 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-12 13:03 ` Björn Bidar
2022-11-12 13:03 ` Björn Bidar
2022-11-12 7:45 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-11-12 13:01 ` Björn Bidar
2022-11-12 13:15 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-12 13:41 ` Björn Bidar
2022-11-12 14:15 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-12 13:23 ` Po Lu
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2022-11-13 14:34 ` Björn Bidar
2022-11-13 15:16 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-11-13 18:18 ` Björn Bidar
2022-11-13 15:53 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-11-13 17:56 ` Björn Bidar
2022-11-13 18:08 ` Philip Kaludercic
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2022-11-13 22:19 ` Björn Bidar
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2022-11-09 10:52 ` Björn Bidar
2022-11-09 17:41 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-11-09 20:16 ` Björn Bidar
2022-11-09 21:10 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-11-09 23:40 ` Björn Bidar
2022-11-10 0:11 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-11-10 7:23 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-09 17:44 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-11-09 20:05 ` Björn Bidar
2022-11-09 20:45 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-11-09 23:33 ` Björn Bidar
2022-11-10 0:03 ` Stefan Monnier
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2022-11-09 17:35 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-11-09 18:22 ` Stefan Monnier
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2022-11-12 0:32 ` Rudolf Adamkovič
2022-11-12 7:59 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-11-12 22:57 ` Rudolf Adamkovič
2022-11-13 0:01 ` Rudolf Adamkovič
2022-11-13 1:38 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-11-13 21:42 ` Rudolf Adamkovič
2022-11-13 3:00 ` Stefan Kangas
2022-11-13 22:20 ` Rudolf Adamkovič
2022-11-13 7:01 ` Philip Kaludercic
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2022-10-31 11:56 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-10-31 14:23 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-10-26 18:22 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-10-26 18:40 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-10-26 18:41 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-10-26 18:59 ` Stefan Monnier
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2022-11-03 3:17 ` Richard Stallman
2022-11-03 15:18 ` Philip Kaludercic
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2022-11-05 7:15 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-11-05 11:14 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-05 11:21 ` Philip Kaludercic
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2022-11-05 16:45 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-11-03 3:17 ` Richard Stallman
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