From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: etags to xref changed navigation Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2024 09:31:02 +0300 Message-ID: <86y1932rx5.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87sezdqvox.fsf@vps.thesusis.net> <86edax5s9t.fsf@gnu.org> <86bk615ho9.fsf@gnu.org> <87cyqg6ma8.fsf@vps.thesusis.net> <865xw753bo.fsf@gnu.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="21903"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Apr 24 08:31:45 2024 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1rzWAT-0005Yd-7A for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 24 Apr 2024 08:31:45 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rzW9w-0000mU-8W; Wed, 24 Apr 2024 02:31:12 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rzW9q-0000m9-F8 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 24 Apr 2024 02:31:06 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rzW9p-00057t-EC for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 24 Apr 2024 02:31:06 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=nhHB961wwDdb68XZEK0DMGn7reRYqFnQ+rHXnqqAmrU=; b=Hr4+Ww0YtWWl H0n+vGALIvm5KYjzqmpzvsKJ8ydf5KVzOHbD772oSK1sebpujibjgGo+xc3gesn3n4yK5QUHlE6Xp NHtAZK8J+v9eXCksAPKITn4cf8HJmL0YKdzwM9HThgETuEHPTNmSdylmX5XYxNsdvhfFvNOPKkVzj mggrupzqoHbgpjvPx4bpSOdyU+hEDxOBDwOR7mTbyxaD6uteURP0GRugBNtGsJWe0EoebdFu9jdC2 bupEZ5TaiwzJryWy96J85/dxjdBV3sxZ7T9qpYxEcfvRMRp1QzTLzqjZKrBBm4bMrBzWSlDdWQw72 niMkvZGuYXU5mFp26/dtTw==; In-Reply-To: (message from Stefan Monnier via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor on Tue, 23 Apr 2024 22:07:08 -0400) X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:146464 Archived-At: > Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2024 22:07:08 -0400 > From: Stefan Monnier via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor > > >> >> I'm not sure what the problems would be, concretely, but we can always > >> >> solve the problem by making the behavior optional. > >> > I think the reason why it was on M-, before was because repeated > >> > M-. couldn't tell whether you wanted the next, or to start a new search > >> > for whatever point is on now. > >> > >> That's also my understanding, and I'm suggesting that it distinguishes > >> the two by checking if `M-.` is used consecutively or not > > > > The problem with this proposal is that any command in-between will > > break the chain. One must remember not event to move point. That > > could well be problematic: for example, imagine that I'm not sure > > whether I want the current candidate, and to be sure I need to scroll > > the window a bit, because what M-. displayed doesn't show enough > > (e.g., because the window is too small). > > IIUC if you break the chain, indeed you wouldn't be able to use `M-.` to > keep going to the next def, but you could still use `M-g M-n` for that. > The extra keyboard movement from `M-.` to `M-g M-n` is expected to be > much less of a burden since you presumably already moved your fingers > away from `M-.` to break the chain. That's correct, but I think remembering to use only "M-g M-n" is easier, and together with xref-auto-jump-to-first-definition set to t it should provide a UX almost identical to the old UX.