From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#70984: 30.0.50; Improved support for entering quotation marks, Re: bug#70984: 30.0.50; Improved support for entering quotation marks Date: Fri, 17 May 2024 16:38:21 +0300 Message-ID: <86y188ftiq.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87r0e1j03u.fsf@gmail.com> <87r0e1j03u.fsf@gmail.com> <86cypliwf5.fsf@gnu.org> <87msooj305.fsf@gmail.com> <864jawhg5f.fsf@gnu.org> <87a5koiqho.fsf@gmail.com> <86zfsofv1t.fsf@gnu.org> <871q60in64.fsf@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="17581"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: stephen.berman@gmx.net, 70984@debbugs.gnu.org To: Robert Pluim Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri May 17 15:39:21 2024 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1s7xns-0004M6-FH for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 17 May 2024 15:39:20 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1s7xnb-0005XT-O5; Fri, 17 May 2024 09:39:03 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1s7xnX-0005Tg-SY for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 17 May 2024 09:39:00 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:5::43]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1s7xnX-00051J-Bd for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 17 May 2024 09:38:59 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1s7xna-0004Qg-5E for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 17 May 2024 09:39:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 17 May 2024 13:39:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 70984 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 70984-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B70984.171595312617016 (code B ref 70984); Fri, 17 May 2024 13:39:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 70984) by debbugs.gnu.org; 17 May 2024 13:38:46 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55349 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1s7xnJ-0004QO-R9 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 17 May 2024 09:38:46 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:44934) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1s7xnI-0004QI-0L for 70984@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 17 May 2024 09:38:44 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1s7xn9-0004z0-MP; Fri, 17 May 2024 09:38:35 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-version:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: Date; bh=wMgPMj1uyfC57ev0AQR3NXrKMXoKteAXchP3fRBP2tY=; b=WCP2X+0s1VDOM4wl/jiy u4z10rSzT+b/FODDnr1fuKKeuplRyPqe6Us66OdkJLJuFpBdO3C0lNEcD4+WV6Tvt82gBdl6EJ1fS iVqKUDDjhRBaBZFLIoILnWTHQ/TQA9k9AlfsiVB/Q2VRjcQvhMZg5ZDQaxFUlxWF0Ij5TNalo4bDb 5c9cqN1T0sGrcXBjeyCFu6aH01xPQhLqde/ZKbGoV1P9r4uKcKIovMBoRwiJ4ucJKUTAT0PbXQHvD 5GsygUXOp/76Ltuz1WCrs5F5OA65Fu9KXgiJcYjFGZFVFr9Zuw2BhOHx956ER1rtUQ3fXLjOAR4EW nEvIH164ge+nsg==; In-Reply-To: <871q60in64.fsf@gmail.com> (message from Robert Pluim on Fri, 17 May 2024 15:27:15 +0200) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:285243 Archived-At: > From: Robert Pluim > Cc: stephen.berman@gmx.net, 70984@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Fri, 17 May 2024 15:27:15 +0200 > > >>>>> On Fri, 17 May 2024 16:05:18 +0300, Eli Zaretskii said: > > >> Apropos, what about the following for electric-quote-chars? I think > >> Iʼve covered most of the common combinations: > > Eli> What's the purpose of this? > > electric-quote-chars is convenient for entering single and double > Unicode quotes, and can be configured according to everyoneʼs own > preference, but you have to do it character by character. Adding these > options just provides pre-configured correct settings for a number of > styles around the world without the user having to figure out for > themselves how to customize it to use guillemets (or whatever their > preference is). But then the correct UI is to show pairs of quote characters and allow selection of any combination of any number of the pairs. What you seem to suggest instead are pre-composed combinations, according to your selection, which I think is less optimal. Can't Customize support radio buttons and allow selection of any number of possibilities, not just one out of many?