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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Quang Kien Nguyen <kien.n.quang@gmail.com>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, pipcet@protonmail.com
Subject: Re: MPS: Win64 testers?
Date: Fri, 09 Aug 2024 09:00:11 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <86y156kzh0.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAL7sU5jeZ=nxcoApqzKOkSx8hNjX972Jn9qCypNk_QmDs24dYw@mail.gmail.com> (message from Quang Kien Nguyen on Thu, 8 Aug 2024 16:44:09 -0700)

> From: Quang Kien Nguyen <kien.n.quang@gmail.com>
> Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2024 16:44:09 -0700
> Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, pipcet@protonmail.com
> 
> > What ProcExp64 shows is a good sign, but I'd prefer to test also some
> > redirection like above, with Emacs and the sub-process both writing to
> > the same stdout/stderr stream, which would allow to verify positively
> > that they write to different places.
> 
> Okay, I have tested with this lisp exp:
>     (print 10 #'external-debugging-output)
> 
> 10 is printed in the stdout/stderr on the console.
> 
> Then try again with
>     (start-process-shell-command "test" nil "emacs -Q --batch --eval
> \"(print 123123 #'external-debugging-output)\"")
> 
> The child emacs process is spinned up but nothing is spewed to the
> current console
> output.  Does that correct and prove that they don't share the handle?

Not clearly enough.  Consoles are tricky on Windows.  It is better to
start Emacs with stderr redirected to a file (I've shown how to do
that in a previous message), and then see that what the child Emacs
writes to external-debugging-output does not appear in that file.

Also, instead of start-process please use call-process.  That's
because start-process redirects the stdout/stderr handles of the child
process to the pipe from which the parent Emacs process reads, and
that makes the experiment more complex and harder to reason about.



  reply	other threads:[~2024-08-09  6:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 120+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-08-06  3:04 MPS: Win64 testers? Quang Kien Nguyen
2024-08-06  7:03 ` Quang Kien Nguyen
2024-08-06 11:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-08-06 17:39   ` Quang Kien Nguyen
2024-08-06 18:32     ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-08-06 20:52       ` Quang Kien Nguyen
2024-08-07 11:41         ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-08-07 18:32           ` Quang Kien Nguyen
2024-08-08  5:46             ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-08-08 23:44               ` Quang Kien Nguyen
2024-08-09  6:00                 ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2024-08-09  6:10                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-08-09  9:19                     ` Quang Kien Nguyen
2024-08-09 11:03                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-08-13 12:12                         ` Quang Kien Nguyen
2024-08-13 12:37                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-08-13 15:51                             ` Pip Cet
2024-08-13 18:26                               ` Quang Kien Nguyen
2024-08-13 19:19                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-08-13 20:22                                   ` Quang Kien Nguyen
2024-08-14 13:11                                     ` Sebastián Monía
2024-08-14 17:24                                       ` Quang Kien Nguyen
2024-08-16 20:09                                         ` Sebastián Monía
2024-08-17 11:37                                           ` Sebastián Monía
2024-08-17 12:54                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-08-17 13:24                                               ` Sebastián Monía
2024-08-19 14:34                                                 ` Sebastián Monía
2024-08-19 14:55                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-08-19 15:12                                                     ` Pip Cet
2024-08-19 15:23                                                     ` Sebastián Monía
2024-08-19 15:31                                                       ` Quang Kien Nguyen
2024-08-19 16:23                                                         ` Quang Kien Nguyen
2024-08-21 18:14                                                           ` Sebastián Monía
2024-08-21 18:20                                                             ` Pip Cet
2024-08-21 19:46                                                               ` Sebastián Monía
2024-08-21 18:22                                                             ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-08-21 19:48                                                               ` Sebastián Monía
2024-08-22 17:34                                                             ` Sebastián Monía
2024-08-22 17:51                                                               ` Pip Cet
2024-08-22 18:34                                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-08-22 19:12                                                                   ` Quang Kien Nguyen
2024-08-23  5:32                                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-08-22 19:14                                                                   ` Pip Cet
2024-08-23  5:38                                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-08-23  7:59                                                                       ` Pip Cet
2024-08-23 13:08                                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-08-23 13:42                                                                           ` Quang Kien Nguyen
2024-08-23 13:48                                                                             ` Pip Cet
2024-08-23 14:35                                                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-08-23 14:54                                                                                 ` Quang Kien Nguyen
2024-08-23 16:08                                                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]                                                                                     ` <CAL7sU5g7BrbrPL-B120NtVKkpnMuqmyuwDd_Kp50F1p8Gc3N0g@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]                                                                                       ` <86ikvrp2hz.fsf@gnu.org>
2024-08-23 17:45                                                                                         ` Windows low-level keyboard hook Quang Kien Nguyen
2024-08-23 18:23                                                                                   ` MPS: Win64 testers? Sebastián Monía
2024-08-23 13:44                                                                           ` Pip Cet
2024-08-23 14:32                                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-08-23 15:51                                                                               ` Pip Cet
2024-08-23 16:17                                                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-08-23 18:57                                                                                   ` Pip Cet
2024-08-23 19:28                                                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-08-24 17:31                                                                         ` Pip Cet
2024-08-25  3:17                                                                           ` Quang Kien Nguyen
2024-08-30 19:59                                                                             ` Sebastián Monía
2024-09-01  8:21                                                                               ` Kien Nguyen
2024-09-01  8:43                                                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-01  9:36                                                                                   ` Kien Nguyen
2024-09-01 10:28                                                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-01 11:59                                                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-01 18:54                                                                                         ` Kien Nguyen
2024-09-01 19:27                                                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-01 19:44                                                                                           ` Pip Cet
2024-09-01 21:42                                                                                             ` Kien Nguyen
2024-09-02 11:08                                                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-03  4:12                                                                                               ` Kien Nguyen
2024-09-03 10:37                                                                                                 ` Pip Cet
2024-09-03 16:50                                                                                                   ` Kien Nguyen
2024-09-03 17:48                                                                                                     ` Pip Cet
2024-09-07  8:19                                                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-01 10:49                                                                                 ` Pip Cet
2024-09-01 12:15                                                                                   ` Kien Nguyen
2024-08-22 18:11                                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-08-22 19:17                                                                 ` Sebastián Monía
2024-08-23  5:45                                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-08-07 19:50           ` Pip Cet
2024-08-07 23:14             ` Quang Kien Nguyen
2024-08-08  5:15             ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-08-06 14:18 ` Pip Cet
2024-08-07 11:03   ` Eli Zaretskii
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2024-07-25  9:45 Angelo Graziosi
2024-07-25 10:02 ` Stefan Kangas
2024-07-25 11:35 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-07-27 14:22   ` Angelo Graziosi
2024-07-24 15:45 Pip Cet
2024-07-25  7:16 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-07-25 15:39   ` Pip Cet
2024-07-27  8:02     ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-07-27 10:42       ` Pip Cet
2024-07-27 12:14         ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-07-27 15:49           ` Pip Cet
2024-07-27 16:10             ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-07-27 16:56               ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-07-27 18:27                 ` Pip Cet
2024-07-27 18:50                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-07-27 20:22                     ` Pip Cet
2024-07-28  5:25                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-07-28 13:00                         ` Pip Cet
2024-07-28 14:20                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-07-28 15:00                             ` Pip Cet
2024-07-28 15:20                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-07-28 20:22                                 ` Pip Cet
2024-07-29 11:25                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-07-31  6:18                                     ` Pip Cet
2024-07-31 14:02                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-07-31 19:04                                         ` Sebastián Monía
2024-08-01  5:00                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-08-03  7:50                                         ` pipcet
2024-08-03  9:23                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-08-03 15:17                                             ` pipcet
2024-08-03 16:07                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-07-27 16:09         ` Michael Albinus
2024-07-28 13:22           ` Pip Cet

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