From: Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com>
To: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: composed characters question and suggestions for quail-cyrillic-*
Date: Wed, 09 Jul 2008 11:02:29 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <86wsjv6o6i.fsf@lifelogs.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 87od583s2a.fsf@jurta.org
On Wed, 09 Jul 2008 01:54:35 +0300 Juri Linkov <juri@jurta.org> wrote:
>> I can do
>>
>> (insert (compose-chars ?а ?̀))
>>
>> but if I try the resulting character in quail-define-rules, it's not a
>> valid character read sequence, being two characters. I also can't
>> specify the `compose-chars' function call or a string there. How do I
>> specify a combined character in the quail rules?
JL> Maybe something like this should work ("a`" "а̀") ("a'" "а́").
It doesn't, according to the docs and it's the first thing I tried :)
JL> I think we should use ` and ' as the postfix character, like
JL> latin-postfix vs latin-prefix.
OK, I changed things accordingly and will commit to CVS when the problem
above with doing combining characters in Quail is resolved.
>> Can we have `' generate acute accents and ` generate grave?
>> That's a decent compromise since accented letters are rarely needed.
JL> Since ` and ' are more important for accented letters, we should
JL> find an alternative key for ь.
I often see it written as q or u in manually transliterated text. Maybe
// or /q or /u would work? The corresponding /? /Q /U would uppercase
it.
>> The goal is convenience for the users, so I hope we don't build a large
>> prefix tree. Just the limited repertoire here is already hard to
>> remember.
JL> I now noticed that I can't type a pair of double quotes in cyrillic-translit
JL> that I often do. Maybe this rule should use the slash prefix key /"" -> “ ?
OK, it's more consistent that way. Let's eliminate all but << and >> as
non-prefixed special characters for consistency (those two are too
convenient IMO). So we'd have:
/- -> –
/-- -> —
/. -> • ("big fat dot")
/.. -> … (or whatever is appropriate for this one)
/1{2,4,8,16,32,64} -> 1/fraction (the slash moves to the beginning)
/c -> copyright
/tm -> trademark
/rub-> ruble
/kop-> kopek
/lev-> leva (л AFAIK)
/sto-> stotinki (с AFAIK)
/e -> euro
/ce -> cents
/pa -> §
/`` -> ” (high 9 double quote)
/` -> ’ (high 9 single quote)
/, -> ‚ (low 9 single quote)
/,, -> „ (low 9 double quote)
/' -> ‘ (high 6 single quote)
/'' -> “ (high 6 double quote)
/& -> §
/ab -> §
/# -> №
/no -> №
<< -> «
>> -> »
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-07-09 16:02 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 77+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-06-13 14:27 composed characters question and suggestions for quail-cyrillic-* Ted Zlatanov
2008-06-13 15:11 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-06-13 15:56 ` Jason Rumney
2008-06-13 18:09 ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-06-14 9:44 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-06-14 18:55 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-06-14 19:45 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-06-18 20:17 ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-06-19 11:45 ` Kenichi Handa
2008-07-02 20:25 ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-07-03 2:29 ` Kenichi Handa
2008-07-03 19:53 ` adding consistent extra symbols to input methods (cyrillic-*, croatian-*, slov*, czech-* etc.) input methods Ted Zlatanov
2008-07-05 12:54 ` Kenichi Handa
2008-07-06 18:40 ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-06 22:54 ` Miles Bader
2008-07-10 0:09 ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-10 0:37 ` Kenichi Handa
2008-07-10 0:52 ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-10 1:44 ` Kenichi Handa
2008-07-10 1:15 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-07-10 0:27 ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-10 1:16 ` Miles Bader
2008-07-10 18:43 ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-11 2:52 ` Miles Bader
2008-07-07 1:57 ` Kenichi Handa
2008-07-07 4:39 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-07-07 5:25 ` Kenichi Handa
2008-07-07 19:42 ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-07-07 22:05 ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-13 5:11 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-07-13 5:17 ` Miles Bader
2008-07-13 21:27 ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-14 3:18 ` Miles Bader
2008-07-14 4:43 ` Kenichi Handa
2008-07-14 21:51 ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-15 1:24 ` Kenichi Handa
2008-07-28 13:30 ` multiple input methods (was: adding consistent extra symbols to input methods) Juri Linkov
2008-07-06 18:41 ` composed characters question and suggestions for quail-cyrillic-* Juri Linkov
2008-07-07 20:12 ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-07-07 21:42 ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-08 0:48 ` Kenichi Handa
2008-07-08 10:46 ` Werner LEMBERG
2008-07-08 21:47 ` David Kastrup
2008-07-08 15:37 ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-07-08 17:38 ` James Cloos
2008-07-08 22:54 ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-09 16:02 ` Ted Zlatanov [this message]
2008-07-09 18:02 ` James Cloos
2008-07-09 18:49 ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-07-09 19:51 ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-09 18:48 ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-07-09 19:33 ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-09 22:14 ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-07-09 23:52 ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-10 12:47 ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-07-10 18:45 ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-10 19:10 ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-07-10 19:52 ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-10 20:40 ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-07-10 22:01 ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-12 20:51 ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-14 14:01 ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-07-14 21:47 ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-15 15:06 ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-07-15 20:32 ` Juri Linkov
2008-08-01 21:07 ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-08-05 21:00 ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-08-05 22:05 ` Chong Yidong
2008-07-10 22:09 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-07-10 22:54 ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-11 1:26 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-07-11 2:08 ` Kenichi Handa
2008-07-09 19:21 ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-08 15:49 ` James Cloos
2008-07-08 18:50 ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-07-08 19:50 ` James Cloos
2008-07-08 20:26 ` composed characters question and suggestions for?quail-cyrillic-* Teemu Likonen
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