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From: Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com>
To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: What does 'run' do in cperl-mode?
Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 08:39:29 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <86wsj66sby.fsf@lifelogs.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 0bb45e96-f9f3-4451-a457-004bb5930c76@p10g2000prf.googlegroups.com

On Fri, 25 Jul 2008 14:55:48 -0700 (PDT) Xah <xahlee@gmail.com> wrote: 

X> On Jul 25, 9:41 am, Ted Zlatanov <t...@lifelogs.com> wrote:
>> On Fri, 25 Jul 2008 07:55:29 -0700 (PDT)Xah<xah...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
X> But you can run it by typing Alt+x shell-command (shortcut Alt+x !)
>> 
>> Please note that Alt is not the preferred prefix name for Emacs
>> purposes.  It's Meta, abbreviated M (e.g. M-x), for two reasons:
>> 
>> 1) Meta can be mapped to keys other than Alt
>> 
>> 2) Meta can be invoked with ESC as well, which is very handy in a
>> terminal session (I actually use ESC all the time even in a graphical
>> session)

X> Here're some reason i think emacs should adopt the Alt+‹key› or
X> Alt-‹key› notation throughout its documentation.

X> • The Alt+‹key› or Alt-‹key› notation is universal among Windows and
X> Linux.

X> It was one of the modifier key on obsolete keyboards used by lisp
X> machines in the 1980s.

Meta is not the name of the key, it's the modifier name in today's
Emacs.  As I said, the modifier can be bound to any key (sorry I didn't
state the terminology clearly originally).  Many think this is a plus.

I doubt your suggestion will find much support because it would break a
convention that goes back (AFAIK) far further than Windows or Linux.
You have to consider the *cost* of breaking something like the Meta
convention, not just the benefit.  But feel free to suggest it through
the proper channels as others have mentioned.

Ted


  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-07-28 13:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 86+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-07-24 17:36 What does 'run' do in cperl-mode? formido
2008-07-25  3:02 ` formido
2008-07-25 14:55 ` Xah
2008-07-25 16:41   ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-07-25 21:55     ` Xah
2008-07-26  0:05       ` Florian Beck
2008-07-26  2:04         ` Xah
2008-07-26  0:33       ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
     [not found]       ` <mailman.15432.1217032437.18990.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2008-07-26  1:41         ` Xah
2008-07-28 11:42       ` Nikolaj Schumacher
2008-07-28 11:58         ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2008-07-28 13:39       ` Ted Zlatanov [this message]
2008-07-28 15:02         ` Xah Lee
2008-07-28 16:34           ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
     [not found]           ` <mailman.15504.1217262880.18990.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2008-07-28 17:42             ` Xah Lee
2008-07-28 22:44               ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-07-28 19:57           ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-07-28 20:28             ` Xah Lee
2008-07-28 21:31               ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-07-28 22:09                 ` Xah Lee
2008-07-29 14:33                   ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-07-29 23:20                     ` Xah
     [not found]       ` <mailman.15488.1217245359.18990.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2008-07-28 15:22         ` Xah Lee
2008-07-28 22:14           ` Nikolaj Schumacher
     [not found]           ` <mailman.15520.1217283300.18990.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2008-07-28 22:54             ` Xah Lee
2008-07-29  3:32               ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]               ` <mailman.15531.1217302334.18990.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2008-07-29  7:25                 ` Xah
2008-07-29  7:46                   ` Juanma Barranquero
     [not found]                   ` <mailman.15537.1217317612.18990.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2008-07-29  8:41                     ` Xah
2008-07-29 12:56                       ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-07-29 13:34                       ` William Case
2008-07-29  9:39                     ` Phil Carmody
2008-07-29 12:55                       ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-07-29 18:19                     ` Colin S. Miller
2008-07-30 12:29                       ` David Hansen
2008-07-30 13:34                         ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-07-29 19:33                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-07-29 22:25                   ` Andreas Eder
2008-07-29 23:35                     ` Xah
2008-07-30  8:47                       ` Andreas Eder
2008-07-30  9:49                         ` Xah
2008-07-30 17:58                           ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]                           ` <mailman.15606.1217440713.18990.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2008-07-30 18:17                             ` David Kastrup
     [not found]                   ` <mailman.15565.1217360044.18990.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2008-07-29 19:45                     ` Joost Diepenmaat
2008-07-29 21:16                     ` Xah
2008-07-30  3:34                       ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]                       ` <mailman.15577.1217388899.18990.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2008-07-30  3:55                         ` Xah
2008-07-30 18:06                           ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]                           ` <mailman.15607.1217441187.18990.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2008-07-30 18:37                             ` Xah
2008-08-23 21:22                     ` David Combs
2008-08-23 21:41                     ` Barry Margolin
2008-08-24  0:15                       ` origin of the Meta key Xah
2008-08-24  3:38                         ` Barry Margolin
2008-08-26 12:19                           ` Allan Gottlieb
2008-07-29 11:13               ` What does 'run' do in cperl-mode? Nikolaj Schumacher
2008-07-29 11:52               ` Alan Mackenzie
     [not found]               ` <mailman.15542.1217330058.18990.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2008-07-29 12:05                 ` Xah
2008-07-29 21:55                   ` David Kastrup
     [not found]               ` <mailman.15545.1217332445.18990.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2008-07-29 12:44                 ` Xah
2008-07-29 15:16                   ` Nikolaj Schumacher
2008-07-29 18:27                   ` Alan Mackenzie
     [not found]                   ` <mailman.15550.1217344626.18990.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2008-07-29 21:32                     ` Xah
2008-07-29 23:06                       ` Nikolaj Schumacher
     [not found]                       ` <mailman.15574.1217372768.18990.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2008-07-29 23:29                         ` Xah
2008-07-31 19:07                       ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-08-01  3:34                         ` Xah
2008-08-01  7:18                           ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]                           ` <mailman.15688.1217575142.18990.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2008-08-01  8:00                             ` Xah
2008-08-01  8:12                           ` Nikolaj Schumacher
2008-08-01 15:17                           ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-08-06 22:42                           ` Harry Putnam
     [not found]                           ` <mailman.15964.1218062567.18990.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2008-08-06 23:22                             ` Xah
2008-08-07  6:39                               ` David Kastrup
2008-08-07  8:24                                 ` Xah
     [not found]                   ` <mailman.15564.1217356016.18990.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2008-07-29 22:50                     ` Xah
2008-07-30 15:15                       ` Alan Mackenzie
     [not found]                       ` <mailman.15602.1217430872.18990.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2008-07-30 17:32                         ` Xah
2008-07-30 17:45                           ` Joost Kremers
2008-07-30 18:33                             ` Xah
2008-07-30 19:40               ` Bastien
2008-07-30  0:28     ` namekuseijin
2008-07-27  3:05   ` formido
2008-07-27 11:36     ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-07-27 11:56       ` Thierry Volpiatto
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2008-08-06 23:27 Xah
2008-08-07 14:27 ` Harry Putnam

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