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From: David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org>
To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: a look at the browser scene & emacs
Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 11:28:45 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <86wsbeajz6.fsf@lola.quinscape.zz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 8358de80-5198-41e5-b4a2-04e681d359d1@p20g2000yqi.googlegroups.com

Xah Lee <xahlee@gmail.com> writes:

> News about the browser world
> http://www.macworld.com/article/139022/2009/02/safari4firstlook.html?t=232
>
> emacs really needs to keep up.
>
> The IDE idea, from 1990s to 2000, basically reduced emacs market share
> from perhaps more than 50% in the early 1990s to maybe 1% today among
> professional programers.
>
> emacs today has lots of problems. Many of the “emacs way”, are
> technically inferior. But the nice elisp system holds it back still.
>
> The way for emacs to advance, is to get more people to use emacs.
> Emacs users today are already just the very small clique, half of
> which are perhaps over 40. With these small circle of people, every
> idea that's not “emacs way” gets stamped out.

Or gets adapted to the Emacs way.  The result is that people get one
consistent tool.

> Emacs 22 took a few major step, by having syntax highlighting on by
> default, and CUA mode as a option. Emacs 23 took it further,

Emacs 23 is not yet finished.

> by having cursor move by visual line, and have highlight selection on
> by default. I presume that in emacs 24 might have CUA mode on by
> default...

It quite certainly won't.

> but these changes are happening quite late.

> The emacs on the mac, in particular Aquamac emacs and Carbon emacs,
> did significant job in saving emacs from oblivion.

I disagree.  That's something only a Mac-centric person could say.  The
cross-platform upstream code foldback has been minimal.

> There are a lot needs to be done, especially on the Windows platform
> because it is used by most people.

Platform-specific additions are a dead end since they tend to be
single-person efforts that die out once the person can't be interested
anymore.

-- 
David Kastrup


  reply	other threads:[~2009-02-25 10:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-02-25  5:18 a look at the browser scene & emacs Xah Lee
2009-02-25 10:28 ` David Kastrup [this message]
2009-02-25 13:13   ` Xiao-Yong Jin
2009-02-25 22:26     ` Samuel Wales
2009-02-25 23:14       ` Xiao-Yong Jin
     [not found]   ` <mailman.1758.1235567636.31690.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2009-02-25 13:26     ` Richard Riley
2009-02-26  8:57       ` Miles Bader
2009-02-26  9:42         ` Xah Lee
     [not found]         ` <002094c7-f9fd-422e-a68f-67051e0c7483@w9g2000yqa.googlegroups.com>
2009-02-26  9:59           ` Tassilo Horn
     [not found]           ` <87k57dwmay.fsf@thinkpad.tsdh.de>
     [not found]             ` <go5qmt$a7e$1@news.sap-ag.de>
2009-02-26 11:23               ` Tassilo Horn
2009-02-28 15:48           ` Colin S. Miller
2009-02-28 18:12             ` Samuel Wales
2009-02-25 17:49     ` Xah Lee

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