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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:302692 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: > Here are the questions I think we want to be answered to finalize the > implementation and effects of 'inhibit-automatic-native-compilation': > > . Do people actually use 'inhibit-automatic-native-compilation' or > the corresponding environment variable? If so, for what reasons, > and why tweaking 'native-comp-eln-load-path' to direct the *.eln > files to some other place, including the temporary-file directory, > was not enough? I do. When running Emacs ada-mode tests, I spawn lots of Emacsen. If each one tries to native compile stuff, it just slows down the tests. I could try to ensure the stuff is native compiled first, but that's a maintenance burden. > . What do we want to do about compiling trampolines when > native-compilation is disabled? What is the name of the "temporary directory" that is not deleted on Windows? I can check it see if is created when I run my tests. > . Do we want to keep the EMACS_INHIBIT_AUTOMATIC_NATIVE_COMPILATION > environment variable? I don't need this for my use case. -- -- Stephe