From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: master 72b1379f079: Increase `emacs-lisp-docstring-fill-column` to 72 Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2024 13:20:45 +0200 Message-ID: <86wmrl3ib6.fsf@gnu.org> References: <170687730547.552.9673193819426474611@vcs2.savannah.gnu.org> <20240202123506.0CEC7C0EFF5@vcs2.savannah.gnu.org> <87mssjm0ac.fsf@yahoo.com> <87il36mevf.fsf@yahoo.com> <86frya3q4r.fsf@gnu.org> <87ttmplvar.fsf@yahoo.com> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="19762"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: stefankangas@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Po Lu Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Feb 03 12:21:12 2024 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1rWE59-0004z5-L8 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 03 Feb 2024 12:21:11 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rWE4o-0001u1-3J; Sat, 03 Feb 2024 06:20:50 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rWE4m-0001sj-HZ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 03 Feb 2024 06:20:48 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rWE4m-0000SV-7s; Sat, 03 Feb 2024 06:20:48 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=zJBIv4N8bbzrdOKXQ8KeptcRk65bHxfFPJ/x0RrfKVE=; b=gwAkMi633w3E 6FkYabqLNBUHCZ6KzGAnnzeQJESjw5v9cWe5DJC+/42fF3HHnFkhqsBxn9fJ8yAVBGTys+s4ClSck BA1HYK6oyRjaKClrm3eP48qqjbIc/rVKuonDwM90m3VjHSLQ1H8rNZWEpmZDP6ouK9EwN5bAQaFuc lSBo/W7IXjX6nJAPLmFRnYdz/mjRduUkFYmjI1uvQQElEMnAKvALNHgiTcdKuRKa/L5ZZvaiifUWk Ueu9Sg+89U84ajd8Wh8r/mhtiuWtEA9Qd8WDpJS7w1FSQV2c5OgwOPtDcFW4qkwVCdcuPVxwlCd3W sQLFSvw6y6YW4+9ZT2AgRQ==; In-Reply-To: <87ttmplvar.fsf@yahoo.com> (message from Po Lu on Sat, 03 Feb 2024 18:02:52 +0800) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:315814 Archived-At: > From: Po Lu > Cc: stefankangas@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org > Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2024 18:02:52 +0800 > > > So I think this setting should affect almost no one, and making a > > showcase out of this change just misses the entire point of the > > "December's debacle". We have more important stuff to discuss than > > this insignificant detail. > > Before responding, I tried to measure the impact of this change by > running: > > (mapatoms (lambda (atom) > (when (functionp atom) > (and (documentation atom) > (insert (documentation atom) "\n"))))) > > in a buffer, with the fill column set to 72, and typing C-x h M-q. Upon > restoring the fill column to 64 and enabling the fill column indicator, > the number of lines and words beyond it increased visibly. So this is > not so insignificant a detail. This is a misunderstanding: I think it's insignificant because we mostly don't pay attention to this setting anyway.