From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Making the GNU C Manual easier to find in Info Date: Thu, 05 Dec 2024 08:30:53 +0200 Message-ID: <86wmgey736.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87ser8c230.fsf@jeremybryant.net> <86ser87rut.fsf@gnu.org> <87cyicuk25.fsf@melete.silentflame.com> <86jzcj6e4h.fsf@gnu.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="40014"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: spwhitton@spwhitton.name, jb@jeremybryant.net, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Dec 05 07:31:28 2024 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1tJ5OZ-000AEe-RE for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 05 Dec 2024 07:31:28 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1tJ5OC-0003b9-On; Thu, 05 Dec 2024 01:31:04 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1tJ5OA-0003ah-Sj for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 05 Dec 2024 01:31:02 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1tJ5OA-0001Wn-JL; Thu, 05 Dec 2024 01:31:02 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=COGtEY3FzPRxSfjz4HVny2rnwgJCWWxjTLQac0BvEZE=; b=D8ddwMOAvBY0 /37wfra1rhm/CLQP6AqpiuVcFTMkf7sxpagOj59aJq0CNeH4lXg/hZjrFmYaePPIUuxYSNE9MPMCs neY27NyGlGpNMD0yKnIkIMhOeJMCQoCzhcBuPkXg1rX6IYh7ZbLkkzfZqb3vWLufy2Rskw3BN91bu hCpAPHs45kiTxXpkckiXUrjy9WgnedzTBOFK8NHQSCNo6OPJzRDBp9wEFcBE7abZLwemT09CNvr+1 wrk8DrQbQmEb2wlFqw5iSW2autW9vE2/AYrdDJHHXgQ6ebxtgNO23cFqKP0Sbgd//j0RkOX0mg5HU AJX7l6woBrUCPFd4zBm3zQ==; In-Reply-To: (message from Richard Stallman on Thu, 05 Dec 2024 00:05:14 -0500) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:326069 Archived-At: > From: Richard Stallman > Cc: spwhitton@spwhitton.name, jb@jeremybryant.net, emacs-devel@gnu.org > Date: Thu, 05 Dec 2024 00:05:14 -0500 > > > Isn't the fact that it was mentioned here enough to have it found by a > > browser search? > > That is a very low standard of helpfulness. We should aim to be more > helpful than that, with our Info manuals. Agreed. But the place to seek such help is not necessarily here. > > There are a lot of useful manuals that people might not hear about, > > but it doesn't mean it's Emacs's job to solve those problems. > > That is true -- helping to make users aware of the GNU C Manual is not > particularly the mission of GNU Emacs. But it is the mission of the > GNU system. We -- the GNU Project -- ought to do a better job of this. > > Unfortunately, the GNU Project has no Info Tsar whose job is to plan > changes in various GNU packages to bring the Info system to full > fruition. Can some of us join a discussion about this, perhaos with > some Texinfo developers and others who might be helpful? I think the Texinfo developers are the de-fact "czars" of the GNU Info documentation. So the discussions about this are best held on Texinfo mailing lists, IMO.