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envelope-from=jimjoe@gmx.net; helo=mout.gmx.net X-Spam_score_int: -27 X-Spam_score: -2.8 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.8 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_CERTIFIED_BLOCKED=0.001, RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_RPBL_BLOCKED=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:149039 Archived-At: Christopher Howard wrote: > Hi, in Gnus I frequently use gnus-summary-kill-same-subject (C-k) to > kill threads that are of no interest to me. However, when I am reading > news the next day, I have to deal again with new messages from that > thread. I'm wondering if I have a mechanism in Gnus to permanently > hide a thread. > > In the manual, am seeing a lot of information about thread scoring, > but I'm not sure if/how that is something I can leverage toward this > end. Yes. I just use: (setq gnus-use-adaptive-scoring '(word)) The default value of gnus-default-adaptive-score-alist includes killing, which means that manual scoring of this sort: >> ..kill files are allegedly slow. So what you do instead is 'L', which >> allows you to lower the score of a thread, and then you can use 'V x' >> to set the score below which messages are automatically hidden (I >> don=CA=BCt remember offhand if the effect of 'V x' is permanent or not, = as >> I don=CA=BCt really use scoring). ...is unnecessary for me, but you should be able to use 'L s'. > The score approaches sounds find, except I was just wondering: Is the > score somehow portable across multiple computers? I use multiple > backends, including nnimap, nnatom, nnrss, and nntp. However, focusing > on the IMAP messages, it seems that if I mark a message as read (which > I think is basically the same thing as "killing" it) then the message > is still marked as read when I login via Gnus on a different computer. > Would hiding still work if I was just marking messages with a low > score? Scoring is orthogonal to marks and the score files may be synced. Christopher Howard wrote: >> IMAP is a bit of a special case; where possible (always, perhaps?) >> Gnus will use IMAP flags stored on the server for representing things >> like readedness marks, ticks, etc. > > I'm working through the manual sections on scoring, and it says that > messages below a certain score threshold are marked as read. So I > think that would take care of the concern I have, since it appears > that (somehow or other) messages marked "read" are also marked as such > on the IMAP server itself. Yes. The 'Y' mark makes the message read when you 'c' or 'q'. --