From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Renaming NEWS Date: Mon, 21 May 2007 10:42:50 +0200 Message-ID: <86veemk1o5.fsf@lola.quinscape.zz> References: <17989.37070.393150.565546@kahikatea.snap.net.nz> <17994.14013.614407.875104@kahikatea.snap.net.nz> <17994.32856.216525.50726@kahikatea.snap.net.nz> <17994.54868.931947.611990@kahikatea.snap.net.nz> <17995.31640.399794.621018@kahikatea.snap.net.nz> <17995.53754.860573.633945@kahikatea.snap.net.nz> <17996.55425.495501.592760@kahikatea.snap.net.nz> <17998.5626.348375.91578@kahikatea.snap.net.nz> <17998.45589.625578.730270@kahikatea.snap.net.nz> <17999.58366.589991.627229@kahikatea.snap.net.nz> <0l8xbjgsq4.fsf_-_@fencepost.gnu.org> <87iran41xo.fsf@catnip.gol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1179736989 17181 80.91.229.12 (21 May 2007 08:43:09 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 May 2007 08:43:09 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Eli Zaretskii , emacs-devel@gnu.org, Nick Roberts , Miles Bader To: Glenn Morris Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon May 21 10:43:07 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Hq3Ts-0003IU-LM for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 21 May 2007 10:43:06 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Hq3Tp-00071U-JH for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 21 May 2007 04:43:01 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Hq3Tm-0006zo-5p for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 21 May 2007 04:42:58 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Hq3Tk-0006wV-Ce for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 21 May 2007 04:42:57 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Hq3Tk-0006vz-4i for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 21 May 2007 04:42:56 -0400 Original-Received: from pc3.berlin.powerweb.de ([62.67.228.11]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Hq3Ti-0004hw-2U for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 21 May 2007 04:42:55 -0400 Original-Received: from quinscape.de (dslnet.212-29-44.ip210.dokom.de [212.29.44.210] (may be forged)) by pc3.berlin.powerweb.de (8.9.3p3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA04951 for ; Mon, 21 May 2007 10:42:48 +0200 X-Delivered-To: Original-Received: (qmail 9592 invoked from network); 21 May 2007 08:42:50 -0000 Original-Received: from unknown (HELO lola.quinscape.zz) ([10.0.3.43]) (envelope-sender ) by ns.quinscape.de (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 21 May 2007 08:42:50 -0000 Original-Received: by lola.quinscape.zz (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 0FCF38EDAE; Mon, 21 May 2007 10:42:50 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: (Glenn Morris's message of "Mon\, 21 May 2007 04\:09\:30 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/23.0.51 (gnu/linux) X-detected-kernel: Linux 2.4-2.6 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:71474 Archived-At: Glenn Morris writes: > Miles Bader wrote: > >> It won't complicate things if the file is truly renamed, i.e., the >> existing arch-targ: in NEWS is kept in NEWS.22 (and omitted from the >> _new_ NEWS file). [BTW, if you create a new file, don't add an empty >> arch-tag: line or anything, just leave it out, and one will get added >> during syncing.] > > Nifty. > > It also seems time (again, as Kim said earlier) for a fresh > lisp/ChangeLog and a new lisp/ChangeLog.12. The right thing to do here > is create ChangeLog.12 as a new file with no arch tag, and move most > of the current contents of ChangeLog there, right? Including moving the arch tag, I suppose. > That way, when you sync things from lisp/ChangeLog on the release > branch, they will go into lisp/ChangeLog rather than ChangeLog.12. I don't think we really should sync anything from the release branch for now. Fixes should make their way from the trunk to the release branch, not the other way round. And they should be few enough that synching them manually between ChangeLog and ChangeLog should be workable (arch would presumably want to synch between ChangeLog.12 and ChangeLog). > What do people think the best split date is? The base of the release > branch, or perhaps 2006-12-31, to match ChangeLog.11? Base of release branch would be my preference. > BTW I'm not saying any of this needs to be done in a rush. We should do this before any branch merge, I think. -- David Kastrup