From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Sebastien Vauban" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#15902: 24.3.50; Auto-save file not deleted when quitting Emacs (and saying "don't save") Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2013 15:26:56 +0100 Organization: Sebastien Vauban Message-ID: <86txfd4u6n.fsf@somewhere.org> References: <86vbzt3o3p.fsf@somewhere.org> <83eh6hj34j.fsf@gnu.org> <86r4ah3lhx.fsf@somewhere.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1384525705 24065 80.91.229.3 (15 Nov 2013 14:28:25 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2013 14:28:25 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 15902-ubl+/3LiMTaZdePnXv/OxA@public.gmane.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org Fri Nov 15 15:28:29 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VhKNm-00033o-4j for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 15 Nov 2013 15:28:26 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:60585 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VhKNl-0007lZ-Hm for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 15 Nov 2013 09:28:25 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:58647) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VhKNa-0007kW-18 for bug-gnu-emacs-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org; Fri, 15 Nov 2013 09:28:22 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VhKNP-0005ci-PO for bug-gnu-emacs-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org; Fri, 15 Nov 2013 09:28:13 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:40205) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VhKNP-0005cd-Mn for bug-gnu-emacs-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org; Fri, 15 Nov 2013 09:28:03 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VhKNO-0003yy-Og for bug-gnu-emacs-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org; Fri, 15 Nov 2013 09:28:03 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org Resent-From: "Sebastien Vauban" Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org Resent-Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2013 14:28:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 15902 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 15902-submit-ubl+/3LiMTaZdePnXv/OxA@public.gmane.org id=B15902.138452564915245 (code B ref 15902); Fri, 15 Nov 2013 14:28:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 15902) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Nov 2013 14:27:29 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54224 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VhKMq-0003xn-HU for submit-ubl+/3LiMTaZdePnXv/OxA@public.gmane.org; Fri, 15 Nov 2013 09:27:29 -0500 Original-Received: from dd5e0353a.access.telenet.be ([213.224.53.58]:57505 helo=mail.missioncriticalit.com) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VhKMl-0003xI-Ij for 15902-ubl+/3LiMTaZdePnXv/OxA@public.gmane.org; Fri, 15 Nov 2013 09:27:25 -0500 Original-Received: from MUNDANEUM.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--so-tickle-me (unknown [10.10.10.51]) by mail.missioncriticalit.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3D94E501481; Fri, 15 Nov 2013 15:29:52 +0100 (CET) X-Url: Under construction... X-Archive: encrypt In-Reply-To: (Stefan Monnier's message of "Fri, 15 Nov 2013 09:05:14 -0500") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (windows-nt) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit-ubl+/3LiMTaZdePnXv/OxA@public.gmane.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:80593 Archived-At: Stefan Monnier wrote: >> where you left it saved: you (have to) see the message "please recover >> your file" (while the file wasn't damaged at the first place), and >> then decide what to do. > > Indeed, you have to see a message. And after seeing this message, > you obviously have to decide what to do with it. One option is to > simply disregard the message and move on. The message doesn't tell you > that you *have* to recover the file. > It says "%s has auto save data; consider M-x recover-this-file" to remind > you about the existence of this auto-save data, in case you didn't know > or forgot about it. The message "%s has auto save data; consider M-x recover-this-file" is useful for modifications which I could potentially loose because of an Emacs crash, a power failure, a kill -9 of Emacs, and so on... No doubt about the usefulness of the auto-save feature. My point is just that, when I quit Emacs and answer a full "yes" (even the 3-char version of the prompt!) to say that _I don't want my modifications to be saved_, I prefer not be bothered, later, by that message and those questions about what to do in that particular case. For example, when I open some files after 3 weeks, how will I know that, for some of them, I explicitly disregarded the changes when leaving Emacs (and should ignore the message), while, for others, I did not intend to loose the modifications, and I would need to recover them? Best regards, Seb -- Sebastien Vauban