* completing-read return meta-information? @ 2015-09-16 13:57 Stephen Leake 2015-09-16 15:00 ` Drew Adams 0 siblings, 1 reply; 21+ messages in thread From: Stephen Leake @ 2015-09-16 13:57 UTC (permalink / raw) To: emacs-devel I'd like completing-read to be able to return meta-information with the completion string. For example, consider completing a file name when there are duplicates: dir1/ file1.el file2.el dir2/ file1.el file2.el The completion function is reading the disk; it knows the absolute path of the file that the user chooses. However, that information is lost when completing-read returns just "file1.el<dir1>" (a uniqified file name). So the caller has to repeat some of the work of the completion function to use the returned result. I tried storing the directory info in a text property of the completion string; that was not returned. A similar situation occurs when completing in an alist; the completion function uses assoc to read the alist, but after completing-read returns, the caller must call assoc again. `completion-metadata' doesn't seem designed for arbitrary user information. And I'd rather not have to call the completion table function again; that would typically require re-computing the meta-information, or caching it somewhere. Is there a way to return meta-information? What would have to be changed in completing-read to make this possible? -- -- Stephe ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 21+ messages in thread
* RE: completing-read return meta-information? 2015-09-16 13:57 completing-read return meta-information? Stephen Leake @ 2015-09-16 15:00 ` Drew Adams 2015-09-16 17:06 ` Stephen Leake 2015-09-16 17:45 ` Stephen Leake 0 siblings, 2 replies; 21+ messages in thread From: Drew Adams @ 2015-09-16 15:00 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Stephen Leake, emacs-devel > I tried storing the directory info in a text property of the > completion string; that was not returned. FWIW, I proposed years ago that a completion candidate (string) be able to be returned propertized. "Be able" means that this can be controlled, e.g., by a variable. Here is a thread about this from 2008, for instance: http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2008-06/msg01503.html There were other threads too. FWIW, in Icicles I've done this for nearly a decade. I use this feature to recuperate information associated with an individual candidate. A candidate can be as rich as you like and return as much info as you like. The changes to the Emacs code needed to allow this are simple. > A similar situation occurs when completing in an alist; the completion > function uses assoc to read the alist, but after completing-read > returns, the caller must call assoc again. See above - same thing. Just put the full alist element on the string as a property. You can use the exact alist element: `eq'-testable. No loss of information. > `completion-metadata' doesn't seem designed for arbitrary user > information. And I'd rather not have to call the completion table > function again; that would typically require re-computing the > meta-information, or caching it somewhere. > > Is there a way to return meta-information? > What would have to be changed in completing-read to make this possible? Simply return the propertized candidate as is. Makes completion far more useful. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 21+ messages in thread
* Re: completing-read return meta-information? 2015-09-16 15:00 ` Drew Adams @ 2015-09-16 17:06 ` Stephen Leake 2015-09-16 17:28 ` Drew Adams 2015-09-16 17:45 ` Stephen Leake 1 sibling, 1 reply; 21+ messages in thread From: Stephen Leake @ 2015-09-16 17:06 UTC (permalink / raw) To: emacs-devel Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com> writes: >> I tried storing the directory info in a text property of the >> completion string; that was not returned. > > FWIW, I proposed years ago that a completion candidate (string) be > able to be returned propertized. "Be able" means that this can be > controlled, e.g., by a variable. > > Here is a thread about this from 2008, for instance: > http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2008-06/msg01503.html > There were other threads too. > > FWIW, in Icicles I've done this for nearly a decade. I use this > feature to recuperate information associated with an individual > candidate. A candidate can be as rich as you like and return as > much info as you like. > > The changes to the Emacs code needed to allow this are simple. Excellent. Can you post a patch? Or you can add it to the feature branch I'll push soon; scratch/project-find-file. Another choice would be for completing-read to return a cons when the completion-table returns an alist. That would also require a flag to allow the new behavior, to avoid breaking current alist completion tables. -- -- Stephe ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 21+ messages in thread
* RE: completing-read return meta-information? 2015-09-16 17:06 ` Stephen Leake @ 2015-09-16 17:28 ` Drew Adams 0 siblings, 0 replies; 21+ messages in thread From: Drew Adams @ 2015-09-16 17:28 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Stephen Leake, emacs-devel > >> I tried storing the directory info in a text property of the > >> completion string; that was not returned. > > > > FWIW, I proposed years ago that a completion candidate (string) be > > able to be returned propertized. "Be able" means that this can be > > controlled, e.g., by a variable. > > > > Here is a thread about this from 2008, for instance: > > http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2008-06/msg01503.html > > There were other threads too. > > > > FWIW, in Icicles I've done this for nearly a decade. I use this > > feature to recuperate information associated with an individual > > candidate. A candidate can be as rich as you like and return as > > much info as you like. > > > > The changes to the Emacs code needed to allow this are simple. > > Excellent. Can you post a patch? See the old threads. Stefan knows full well how to do this. It's not wanted. The Icicles code that does it is here, if you're interested: http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/download/icicles-fn.el. In Icicle mode, `icicle-completing-read' substitutes for `completing-read'. In particular, it doesn't remove text properties from the return value. --- It also binds `minibuffer-allow-text-properties' to `t'. But you will note from `C-h v' for that variable that it has no effect in vanilla Emacs on text read using completion. IOW, you might hope that this would be sufficient to give `toto' a propertized string value, but you would be wrong: (defun foo () (interactive) (let ((minibuffer-allow-text-properties t) (aa (propertize "aa" 'face 'highlight)) (bb (propertize "bb" 'face 'error)) (cc (propertize "cc" 'face 'escape-glyph))) (completing-read "foo: " (list aa bb cc)))) (setq toto (foo)) ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 21+ messages in thread
* Re: completing-read return meta-information? 2015-09-16 15:00 ` Drew Adams 2015-09-16 17:06 ` Stephen Leake @ 2015-09-16 17:45 ` Stephen Leake 2015-09-17 1:38 ` Stefan Monnier 1 sibling, 1 reply; 21+ messages in thread From: Stephen Leake @ 2015-09-16 17:45 UTC (permalink / raw) To: emacs-devel Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com> writes: >> I tried storing the directory info in a text property of the >> completion string; that was not returned. > > Here is a thread about this from 2008, for instance: > http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2008-06/msg01503.html That thread includes a request from Stefan for a clear use case for this. So let me make my case clear. I'm implementing file name completion in projects. The details vary with each backend. Two backends I've implemented so far look like this: (cl-defgeneric project-find-file (prj filename) "Find FILENAME with completion in current project PRJ." (let* ((flat-path (project-flat-search-path prj)) (regexp (project-ignore-files-regexp prj)) (predicate (lambda (filename) ;; FIXME: should call project-ignores here with each directory (not (string-match regexp filename))))) ;; (project-ignore-files-regexp prj) matches filenames, not ;; uniquified filenames. So it must be applied in ;; `find-file-path-completion-table', not `completing-read'. (setq filename (completing-read "file: " ;; prompt (completion-table-dynamic (apply-partially 'find-file-path-completion-table flat-path predicate)) nil t ;; require match filename )) ;; We construct a relative path to ensure the filename is found on ;; `flat-path'. (when (string-match find-file-uniquify-regexp filename) (let ((dir (match-string 2 filename)) (prefix "../") (i 0)) (while (< i (length dir)) (when (= (aref dir i) ?/) (setq prefix (concat prefix "../"))) (setq i (1+ i))) (setq filename (concat prefix dir "/" (match-string 1 filename))) )) (let ((absfilename (locate-file filename flat-path nil))) (if absfilename (find-file absfilename) ;; FIXME: need human-readable name for project (error "'%s' not found in project." filename))) )) (defun find-file-complete-global (filename) "Prompt for completion of FILENAME in a Gnu global project." (setq filename (completing-read "file: " ;; prompt (completion-table-with-cache #'find-file-complete-global-table) ;; collection nil ;; predicate t ;; require match filename )) (when (string-match find-file-uniquify-regexp filename) ;; Get partial dir from conflict (setq filename (concat (match-string 2 filename) (match-string 1 filename)))) ;; If there are two files like: ;; ;; src/keyboard.c ;; test/etags/c-src/emacs/src/keyboard.c ;; ;; and the user completes to the first, the following global call ;; will return both. The desired result is always the shortest. (with-current-buffer (cedet-gnu-global-call (list "--ignore-case" "-Pa" filename)) (let ((paths (split-string (buffer-substring (point-min) (point-max)) "\n" t))) (setq paths (sort paths (lambda (a b) (< (length a) (length b))))) (car paths))) ) There is a desire to refactor this so that the only difference is inside the completion table. Currently, that is not possible, because completing-read does not return the absolute path of the file that the user selected. Therefore the calling code must do additional work, that is different for the two backends. That work typically duplicates some of what the completion table has already done. The solution is to make completing-read return more information. One way to do this with the current completing read code is to add the entire path to the completion string, as a suffix. But that results in a horrible user experience; in the Emacs project on my disk, "locate" would complete to: locate{.rnc</Projects/emacs/master/etc/schema/> .el</Projects/emacs/master/lisp/cedet/ede/> .elc</Projects/emacs/master/lisp/cedet/ede/> .el</Projects/emacs/master/lisp/> .elc</Projects/emacs/master/lisp/>} instead of the mininmal: locate{.rnc .el<lisp/cedet/ede/> .elc<lisp/cedet/ede/> .el<lisp/> .elc</lisp/>} So a better solution is to allow completing-read to return the additional information in some other way. Three ways seem straightforward: 1) The completion table can add the absolute path in an `abspath' text property of the completion string. The rest of the completion functions must preserve the text property. This may need a new optional arg to completing-read, if current code relies on text properties being discarded. 2) The completion table can return an alist (note this is already supported), with the cdr of each element being the absolute path. In this case, completing-read (and other completion functions?) returns the selected cons. To avoid breaking current alist completion-tables, this needs a new optional argument to completing-read (and other completion functions); cons-result, nil by default. Currently, when a completion-table returns an alist, the predicate supplied to completing-read is applied to the cdr of the elements. That could be useful for the file completion case as well, although it will probably be more efficient to apply the predicate inside the table, to prune the file tree. 3) Extend completion-metadata to cover this usage; then the calling code calls completion-metadata with the completing-read string result to retrieve the absolute path. This has the downside that the completion table code must repeat work done previously to recompute the metadata. The calling code then has a standard way of retrieving the absolute path from the result of completing-read (either get the `abspath' text property, take the cdr, or call completion-metadata), and can be independent of the completion backend. I think the alist approach is more in keeping with general Emacs style, although xref-read-identifier is one recent precendent for using text properties in a similar way. Which is the best approach depends mostly on how much code inside the completion functions must be changed. -- -- Stephe ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 21+ messages in thread
* Re: completing-read return meta-information? 2015-09-16 17:45 ` Stephen Leake @ 2015-09-17 1:38 ` Stefan Monnier 2015-09-17 12:52 ` Stephen Leake 2015-09-21 16:46 ` Stephen Leake 0 siblings, 2 replies; 21+ messages in thread From: Stefan Monnier @ 2015-09-17 1:38 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Stephen Leake; +Cc: emacs-devel > There is a desire to refactor this so that the only difference is inside > the completion table. I think the uniquification shouldn't be done in the completion table. All the fancy rewriting to make things shorter should be done in the completion-style, instead. The style code can choose to return different kinds of results for completion-all-completions (which gets displayed in *Completions*, in Company, or in Icomplete-mode and where we should try and reduce redundancy) and for completion-try-completion. So completion-all-completions can return names like "foo<bar>" while completion-try-completion can return "~/src/file/foo/toto/bar.agda". Another option is to use a completely different completion code (e.g. that's what filecache.el does). > 1) The completion table can add the absolute path in an `abspath' text > property of the completion string. I generally don't like the idea that the same text would fail to behave in the same way when written by hand by the user (in which case it won't have that text-property). Stefan ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 21+ messages in thread
* Re: completing-read return meta-information? 2015-09-17 1:38 ` Stefan Monnier @ 2015-09-17 12:52 ` Stephen Leake 2015-09-17 13:24 ` Stefan Monnier 2015-09-21 16:46 ` Stephen Leake 1 sibling, 1 reply; 21+ messages in thread From: Stephen Leake @ 2015-09-17 12:52 UTC (permalink / raw) To: emacs-devel Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> writes: >> There is a desire to refactor this so that the only difference is inside >> the completion table. > > I think the uniquification shouldn't be done in the completion table. > > All the fancy rewriting to make things shorter should be done in the > completion-style, instead. The style code can choose to return different > kinds of results for completion-all-completions (which gets displayed > in *Completions*, in Company, or in Icomplete-mode and where we should > try and reduce redundancy) and for completion-try-completion. > > So completion-all-completions can return names like "foo<bar>" while > completion-try-completion can return "~/src/file/foo/toto/bar.agda". And I gather completing-read returns the result of completion-try-completion. Ok, I'll see if I can figure out how to implement completion style code. -- -- Stephe ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 21+ messages in thread
* Re: completing-read return meta-information? 2015-09-17 12:52 ` Stephen Leake @ 2015-09-17 13:24 ` Stefan Monnier 2015-09-17 18:14 ` Dmitry Gutov 0 siblings, 1 reply; 21+ messages in thread From: Stefan Monnier @ 2015-09-17 13:24 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Stephen Leake; +Cc: emacs-devel > And I gather completing-read returns the result of > completion-try-completion. Not really, no. It returns the content of the buffer when the user hit RET, mostly (unless the completion is of kind `require-match', in which case that is indeed passed one last time to completion-try-completion). The user could hit RET without having called any completion commands. Stefan ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 21+ messages in thread
* Re: completing-read return meta-information? 2015-09-17 13:24 ` Stefan Monnier @ 2015-09-17 18:14 ` Dmitry Gutov 2015-09-18 0:54 ` Stefan Monnier 0 siblings, 1 reply; 21+ messages in thread From: Dmitry Gutov @ 2015-09-17 18:14 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Stefan Monnier, Stephen Leake; +Cc: emacs-devel On 09/17/2015 04:24 PM, Stefan Monnier wrote: > Not really, no. It returns the content of the buffer when the user hit > RET, mostly (unless the completion is of kind `require-match', in which In find-file-in-project, it most likely will be. A non-existing or abbreviated file name input would be pretty useless for that command. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 21+ messages in thread
* Re: completing-read return meta-information? 2015-09-17 18:14 ` Dmitry Gutov @ 2015-09-18 0:54 ` Stefan Monnier 0 siblings, 0 replies; 21+ messages in thread From: Stefan Monnier @ 2015-09-18 0:54 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Dmitry Gutov; +Cc: Stephen Leake, emacs-devel >> Not really, no. It returns the content of the buffer when the user hit >> RET, mostly (unless the completion is of kind `require-match', in which > In find-file-in-project, it most likely will be. A non-existing or > abbreviated file name input would be pretty useless for that command. IIRC, even for require-match we don't always call completion-try-completion (we only do it if test-completion fails). Stefan ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 21+ messages in thread
* Re: completing-read return meta-information? 2015-09-17 1:38 ` Stefan Monnier 2015-09-17 12:52 ` Stephen Leake @ 2015-09-21 16:46 ` Stephen Leake 2015-09-21 19:12 ` Stephen Leake 2015-09-21 19:51 ` Stefan Monnier 1 sibling, 2 replies; 21+ messages in thread From: Stephen Leake @ 2015-09-21 16:46 UTC (permalink / raw) To: emacs-devel [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 2647 bytes --] Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> writes: >> There is a desire to refactor this so that the only difference is inside >> the completion table. > > I think the uniquification shouldn't be done in the completion table. > > All the fancy rewriting to make things shorter should be done in the > completion-style, instead. The style code can choose to return different > kinds of results for completion-all-completions (which gets displayed > in *Completions*, in Company, or in Icomplete-mode and where we should > try and reduce redundancy) and for completion-try-completion. > > So completion-all-completions can return names like "foo<bar>" while > completion-try-completion can return "~/src/file/foo/toto/bar.agda". Attached is code that implements this, together with ert test code for it (helpful in getting the details right). This achieves the goal of moving all of the uniquification code out of the completion table; that required advice on test-completion. It also achieves the goal of returning an absolute string from completing-read; that required advice on completing-read-default to call the new function completion-get-data-string. Note that this does not handle completion on multiple fields (for uniquifying directories); I was focusing on the changes to completion needed to return an absolute file name. That will be added later, and may require design changes See the header comment in minibuffer-patches.el for some design notes. This may be an acceptable implementation, but it would be better to extend completion-style-alist to include slots for completion-test-completion and completion-get-data-string. I think that can be done in a backward-compatible way; if (nth 2 completion-style-alist) (for completion-test-completion) returns a string, just call test-completion, and if (nth 3 completion-style-alist) (for completion-get-data-string) returns nil just return the input string. Then we can change all uses of `test-completion' to call `completion-test-completion'. I'm not entirely sure where the call to completion-get-data-string should be added; one place is in `completion--complete-and-exit', but there may be others. (I didn't advise completion--complete-and-exit directly because I didn't want to mix advice and signals). To try this out, load minibuffer-patches, and call find-absfile via M-: (find-absfile load-path). Note that will not allow you to complete to ede/locate.el; that will also be added later. When you enter a string that does not match any filename, this gives an error from one of the basic completion functions; I have not tried to track that down yet. -- -- Stephe [-- Attachment #2: minibuffer-patches.el --] [-- Type: application/emacs-lisp, Size: 12896 bytes --] [-- Attachment #3: minibuffer-test.el --] [-- Type: application/emacs-lisp, Size: 6721 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 21+ messages in thread
* Re: completing-read return meta-information? 2015-09-21 16:46 ` Stephen Leake @ 2015-09-21 19:12 ` Stephen Leake 2015-09-21 19:51 ` Stefan Monnier 1 sibling, 0 replies; 21+ messages in thread From: Stephen Leake @ 2015-09-21 19:12 UTC (permalink / raw) To: emacs-devel Stephen Leake <stephen_leake@stephe-leake.org> writes: > To try this out, load minibuffer-patches, and call find-absfile > via M-: (find-absfile load-path). > > Note that will not allow you to complete to ede/locate.el; that will > also be added later. To play with completion, use an extended path: M-: (setq test-path (append load-path '("c:/Projects/emacs/master/lisp/cedet/ede")) M-: (find-absfile load-path) Now entering "locate" will show both lisp/locate.el and lisp/cedet/ede/locate.el It also shows the .elc files; I need to a filter predicate. -- -- Stephe ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 21+ messages in thread
* Re: completing-read return meta-information? 2015-09-21 16:46 ` Stephen Leake 2015-09-21 19:12 ` Stephen Leake @ 2015-09-21 19:51 ` Stefan Monnier 2015-09-22 15:21 ` Stephen Leake 1 sibling, 1 reply; 21+ messages in thread From: Stefan Monnier @ 2015-09-21 19:51 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Stephen Leake; +Cc: emacs-devel > It also achieves the goal of returning an absolute string from > completing-read; that required advice on completing-read-default to call > the new function completion-get-data-string. Why can't you make completion-try-completion return an absolute filename when there's only one match? That would eliminate the need for those advices. Stefan PS: Also, as a user, I think I'd rather see names like "dir/file" than "file<dir>". ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 21+ messages in thread
* Re: completing-read return meta-information? 2015-09-21 19:51 ` Stefan Monnier @ 2015-09-22 15:21 ` Stephen Leake 2015-09-26 10:54 ` Stephen Leake 2015-09-28 5:58 ` Dmitry Gutov 0 siblings, 2 replies; 21+ messages in thread From: Stephen Leake @ 2015-09-22 15:21 UTC (permalink / raw) To: emacs-devel Stefan Monnier <monnier@IRO.UMontreal.CA> writes: >> It also achieves the goal of returning an absolute string from >> completing-read; that required advice on completing-read-default to call >> the new function completion-get-data-string. > > Why can't you make completion-try-completion return an absolute filename > when there's only one match? The string returned from completion-try-completion is displayed in the minibuffer, as the completion prefix. I don't want that to be the display string. Part of the point of using path completion is that you don't care what directory the file is in. So having the absolute path displayed as the final completion feels like the system forcing you to care. More importantly, the user can type <ret> at any time; then test-completion should return t when it is passed the abbreviated display string from the first completion; that is known to be a unique valid completion. So this approach would require the user to always type tab, or go thru one more confirmation step after typing <ret>. I tried this approach early in this work, and could not make it work consistently. This discussion points out that "user input string" and "display string" have the same format; both can be passed to completion-try-completion and completion-test-completion. The only difference is that the strings returned by completion-all-completions all identifiy unique, valid files. So I think I'll merge those two string types to "user string"; that should make this clearer. > PS: Also, as a user, I think I'd rather see names like "dir/file" than > "file<dir>". You only need directory names when there are conflicting names; on many paths, there will be none or few. I mainly used that style because it meant the user string is a prefix of all the completions, which some of the completion primitives expect, so it made things simpler. On the other hand, I use the postfix uniquify style for buffer names, so I'm used to it :). I'll try to implement directory completion in both styles; this should be a user preference, just as it is in buffer names. -- -- Stephe ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 21+ messages in thread
* Re: completing-read return meta-information? 2015-09-22 15:21 ` Stephen Leake @ 2015-09-26 10:54 ` Stephen Leake 2015-09-27 15:45 ` Stefan Monnier 2015-09-28 5:58 ` Dmitry Gutov 1 sibling, 1 reply; 21+ messages in thread From: Stephen Leake @ 2015-09-26 10:54 UTC (permalink / raw) To: emacs-devel; +Cc: Stefan Monnier [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 1605 bytes --] Stephen Leake <stephen_leake@stephe-leake.org> writes: > Stefan Monnier <monnier@IRO.UMontreal.CA> writes: > >>> It also achieves the goal of returning an absolute string from >>> completing-read; that required advice on completing-read-default to call >>> the new function completion-get-data-string. >> >> Why can't you make completion-try-completion return an absolute filename >> when there's only one match? > > The string returned from completion-try-completion is displayed in the > minibuffer, as the completion prefix. I don't want that to be the > display string. > > Part of the point of using path completion is that you don't care what > directory the file is in. So having the absolute path displayed as the > final completion feels like the system forcing you to care. > > More importantly, the user can type <ret> at any time; then > test-completion should return t when it is passed the abbreviated > display string from the first completion; that is known to be a unique > valid completion. > > So this approach would require the user to always type tab, or go thru > one more confirmation step after typing <ret>. I tried this approach > early in this work, and could not make it work consistently. I took another stab at this, and got it to work; attached. The version with advice is cleaner, but not by a whole lot. The completion function calls a deuniquify function, and the top level client code calls `try-completion' after calling `completing-read'. The user sees an absolute filename in the completion buffer only if they type <tab> twice on a unique file. -- -- Stephe [-- Attachment #2: minibuffer-patches-2.el --] [-- Type: application/emacs-lisp, Size: 13728 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 21+ messages in thread
* Re: completing-read return meta-information? 2015-09-26 10:54 ` Stephen Leake @ 2015-09-27 15:45 ` Stefan Monnier 2015-09-28 5:50 ` Dmitry Gutov ` (2 more replies) 0 siblings, 3 replies; 21+ messages in thread From: Stefan Monnier @ 2015-09-27 15:45 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Stephen Leake; +Cc: emacs-devel >>> Why can't you make completion-try-completion return an absolute filename >>> when there's only one match? >> The string returned from completion-try-completion is displayed in the >> minibuffer, as the completion prefix. That's right (tho only once it's unique). >> I don't want that to be the display string. I think that's a mistake. >> Part of the point of using path completion is that you don't care what >> directory the file is in. So having the absolute path displayed as the >> final completion feels like the system forcing you to care. No, you still don't have to type it, so you're not forced to care. But yes, you get to see it, so you can (even sub-consciously) double-check that it's indeed the one you want. >> More importantly, the user can type <ret> at any time; then >> test-completion should return t when it is passed the abbreviated >> display string from the first completion; that is known to be a unique >> valid completion. If the call to completing-read uses `require-match' (which I'd expect to be the case), then hitting RET at any time should work fine since if the file name is incomplete test-completion will return nil, so we'll call completion-try-completion. [ And depending on the exact value of `require-match' the expanded/absolute filename will be shown to the user or not. ] > (cons 'path path)))) IIUC this variable `path' holds a file name, not a list of directories, so the GNU Coding Standard would not want to use "path" here (since this word is only used for a list of directories as in load-path). You could use `filename' instead. Stefan ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 21+ messages in thread
* Re: completing-read return meta-information? 2015-09-27 15:45 ` Stefan Monnier @ 2015-09-28 5:50 ` Dmitry Gutov 2015-09-28 15:59 ` Stephen Leake 2015-09-28 16:13 ` Stephen Leake 2 siblings, 0 replies; 21+ messages in thread From: Dmitry Gutov @ 2015-09-28 5:50 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Stefan Monnier, Stephen Leake; +Cc: emacs-devel On 09/27/2015 06:45 PM, Stefan Monnier wrote: > No, you still don't have to type it, so you're not forced to care. > But yes, you get to see it, so you can (even sub-consciously) > double-check that it's indeed the one you want. I also think that it's a benefit, rather than a drawback. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 21+ messages in thread
* Re: completing-read return meta-information? 2015-09-27 15:45 ` Stefan Monnier 2015-09-28 5:50 ` Dmitry Gutov @ 2015-09-28 15:59 ` Stephen Leake 2015-09-28 16:13 ` Stephen Leake 2 siblings, 0 replies; 21+ messages in thread From: Stephen Leake @ 2015-09-28 15:59 UTC (permalink / raw) To: emacs-devel Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> writes: >> (cons 'path path)))) > > IIUC this variable `path' holds a file name, not a list of > directories, No, it is a list of directories. ie load-path for elisp code (possibly exteneded with lisp/cedet/**) -- -- Stephe ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 21+ messages in thread
* Re: completing-read return meta-information? 2015-09-27 15:45 ` Stefan Monnier 2015-09-28 5:50 ` Dmitry Gutov 2015-09-28 15:59 ` Stephen Leake @ 2015-09-28 16:13 ` Stephen Leake 2015-09-28 19:42 ` Stefan Monnier 2 siblings, 1 reply; 21+ messages in thread From: Stephen Leake @ 2015-09-28 16:13 UTC (permalink / raw) To: emacs-devel; +Cc: Stefan Monnier Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> writes: >>>> Why can't you make completion-try-completion return an absolute filename >>>> when there's only one match? >>> The string returned from completion-try-completion is displayed in the >>> minibuffer, as the completion prefix. > > That's right (tho only once it's unique). > >>> I don't want that to be the display string. > > I think that's a mistake. The user can use `locate-file', if they care about the directories. We could enhance that completion table function to deal with duplicate filenames. -- -- Stephe ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 21+ messages in thread
* Re: completing-read return meta-information? 2015-09-28 16:13 ` Stephen Leake @ 2015-09-28 19:42 ` Stefan Monnier 0 siblings, 0 replies; 21+ messages in thread From: Stefan Monnier @ 2015-09-28 19:42 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Stephen Leake; +Cc: emacs-devel >>>> I don't want that to be the display string. >> I think that's a mistake. > The user can use `locate-file', if they care about the directories. I still don't see why you're so intent on preventing the user from seeing the real file name. Yes, we want the user to find the file without having to know where it is, but that's quite different from actively trying to hide that location. Stefan ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 21+ messages in thread
* Re: completing-read return meta-information? 2015-09-22 15:21 ` Stephen Leake 2015-09-26 10:54 ` Stephen Leake @ 2015-09-28 5:58 ` Dmitry Gutov 1 sibling, 0 replies; 21+ messages in thread From: Dmitry Gutov @ 2015-09-28 5:58 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Stephen Leake, emacs-devel On 09/22/2015 06:21 PM, Stephen Leake wrote: >> PS: Also, as a user, I think I'd rather see names like "dir/file" than >> "file<dir>". > > You only need directory names when there are conflicting names; on many > paths, there will be none or few. I think the key distinction here is between "need to input" and "need to see". As long as the user doesn't need to input the directory, I think it's fine if they end up seeing it at some point. > I mainly used that style because it meant the user string is a prefix of > all the completions, which some of the completion primitives expect, so > it made things simpler. This sounds like it'll filter out all results if the user *does* input the directory, in all or at least some of the cases. Please think back to the examples I gave in the other thread. > On the other hand, I use the postfix uniquify style for buffer names, so > I'm used to it :). > > I'll try to implement directory completion in both styles; this should > be a user preference, just as it is in buffer names. Having it customizable would be ideal, but I'm not sure it's possible to have uniquify-style completions without excluding some valid usage scenarios, like mentioned above. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 21+ messages in thread
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