From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [ELPA] New package: activities Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2024 17:32:29 +0200 Message-ID: <86ttmy7pwy.fsf@gnu.org> References: <86frykbksh.fsf@gnu.org> <8634ukb7hv.fsf@gnu.org> <3c51c1aa-ebe5-4dd3-b7cd-a12c972cee12@alphapapa.net> <86cytn9rta.fsf@gnu.org> <87mssq25ge.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="9611"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eric S Fraga Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Jan 27 16:33:30 2024 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1rTkgT-0002J6-1X for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 27 Jan 2024 16:33:29 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rTkfd-0005qc-8Z; Sat, 27 Jan 2024 10:32:37 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rTkfZ-0005q8-FW for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 27 Jan 2024 10:32:34 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rTkfY-00034I-5F; Sat, 27 Jan 2024 10:32:32 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=/S/zj/LdzxN63apBTa7Lcpmzea9G1znJzLqJDFlEyMA=; b=S6TYLiTJPRa7 raHOOQwe4im3hd6or8BEf1MqpJw1AID9VgnBn+BXtsCUhJ2/4QSTYGp0j+ePG0DeTx2T7aawLklce dzQv/10AnRxSpdvYG0fFB+DGn3uGV+Lsdt+NTcjE/Nx8vFN6giIqUgIj52RMhTUVWsml4EkKrXGKc FWdYFkI+5AK+olLMr2EDwGHQE5pajXEU2AGllgBtCodwV1SwtppP+AVcdOaALuV5D+NaWV8eqwa1F dwzy32R40Y9ksePbwdkr+10yRdx+IzDSyGnTeXddgFbuUdvnc4C1YdaAlqxCyT96ngoOBEIQLB0j2 hvyToADOgSLxCTUBJRoQhA==; In-Reply-To: <87mssq25ge.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> (message from Eric S Fraga on Sat, 27 Jan 2024 14:53:21 +0000) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:315489 Archived-At: > From: Eric S Fraga > Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2024 14:53:21 +0000 > > As a very (and I do mean very) long time user, I would like to comment > on this thread. I hope that's okay despite the fact that I do not > contribute much to the actual code in emacs. > > I have never found desktop.el to be useful. I do not start emacs from > different directories so find the whole idea of a desktop counter to my > use case. I start emacs and then use it for days, working on different > completely unrelated projects or activities (teaching, coding, writing, > admin, email, whatever). Emacs, these days, is usually also my window > manager (exwm). > > The proposed activities package (which I have not yet had time to try) > appeals, given its description. And that appeal would increase further > were it integrated or linked with project.el as the latter is more > sympathetic with how I use emacs. I'm sure I'm not the only one that > works this way. The power of Emacs is that it works for so many > different people and allows one to use it the way you want it, not the > other way around. > > Building on top of desktop.el seems, to me, to be using the wrong > starting point. If you don't consider desktop.el useful and don't use it, then, indeed, whether activities.el is a compatible extension of desktop.el or a completely new package developed from ground up on a different basis should be of no importance for you. My worries are for people who do use desktop.el and might also be interested in the features offered by activities.el that are not currently present in desktop.el.