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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Jared Finder <jared@finder.org>
Cc: philipk@posteo.net, 68765@debbugs.gnu.org,
	monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, juri@linkov.net
Subject: bug#68765: 30.0.50; Adding window-tool-bar package.
Date: Sat, 25 May 2024 20:03:41 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <86ttilygb6.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8dbddd7bed38100561a1555da18a3a08@finder.org> (message from Jared Finder on Sat, 25 May 2024 08:49:22 -0700)

> Date: Sat, 25 May 2024 08:49:22 -0700
> From: Jared Finder <jared@finder.org>
> Cc: juri@linkov.net, 68765@debbugs.gnu.org, philipk@posteo.net,
>  monnier@iro.umontreal.ca
> 
> >> +@node Window Tool Bar
> >> +@cindex mode, Window Tool Bar
> > 
> > Index entries should preferably use only lower-case letters, to avoid
> > problems with sorting index entries in different locales.
> > 
> > In addition, I would rephrase the above index entry to say just
> > 
> >   @cindex window tool bar
> 
> I don't think that fits in with the existing convention.  The convention 
> appears to be "use mode, Capital Case Name" for specific modes and 
> "mode, lower case" for concepts.  There's 76 other examples of "@cindex 
> mode," in the Emacs manual already, the majority of which follow that 
> convention.
> 
> The only examples I could find not following the convention are: "mode, 
> archive", "mode, tar", "mode, display-fill-column-indicator".

Nevertheless, I stand by what I wrote.  The examples which you quote,
whether they are a few or not, are mistakes: letter-case affects
sorting of index entries in locale-dependent way, so index entries
that us capital letters will appear in a different order in different
locales, which is not a good thing.

> I will try to redescribe it.  I have a typo in the existing description. 
>   Change "all windows" to "each window".  The idea is that each window 
> gets its own tool bar *inside the window*, specifically on the window's 
> tab line.  Ideally I think I would just show a picture (see attached 
> image), but I see very few pictures in any of the Emacs manuals and none 
> of them show up in the HTML output at 
> https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/, only in the PDF.

I don't think there were images in our manuals in previous versions,
which is why they don't appear in HTML.

Pictures have a disadvantage in that they cannot be displayed on TTY
frames, so a picture that cannot be replaced by some "ASCII art"
generally means the reader on a TTY frame will be at a disadvantage.

I will wait for the next version to see if my questions are now
answered or we need to discuss them further.

Thanks.





  reply	other threads:[~2024-05-25 17:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-01-27 23:36 bug#68765: 30.0.50; Adding window-tool-bar package Jared Finder via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-02-10  8:19 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-02-10 17:25   ` Juri Linkov
2024-02-26 22:38     ` Jared Finder via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-03-26 15:34       ` Jared Finder via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-03-27  7:04         ` Juri Linkov
2024-05-02  6:03           ` Juri Linkov
2024-05-09  8:00             ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-05-10  4:24               ` Jared Finder via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-05-11  4:33                 ` Jared Finder via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-05-12 16:34                   ` Juri Linkov
2024-05-14  4:14                     ` Jared Finder via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-05-14  6:01                       ` Juri Linkov
2024-05-18  9:50                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-05-19  3:55                           ` Jared Finder via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-05-19  6:43                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-05-20 17:14                         ` Juri Linkov
2024-05-21  2:25                           ` Jared Finder via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-05-21  6:12                             ` Juri Linkov
2024-05-18  9:45                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-05-18  9:48                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-05-19  3:58                         ` Jared Finder via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-05-19  6:48                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-05-23  4:19                             ` Jared Finder via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-05-23  6:52                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-05-25 15:49                                 ` Jared Finder via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-05-25 17:03                                   ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2024-05-25 19:54                                     ` Jared Finder via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-05-26  9:44                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-05-26 16:20                                         ` Jared Finder via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-05-26 18:40                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-06-02  4:17                                             ` Jared Finder via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-06-02  5:21                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-06-02 15:57                                                 ` Jared Finder via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-06-02 16:46                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-05-19 14:41                           ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-05-20  3:25                             ` Jared Finder via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-05-20  6:39                               ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-05-20  9:19                               ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-05-21  4:18                                 ` Jared Finder via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-05-21 13:40                                   ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-05-22 16:16                                   ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-02-11 20:51 ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-02-27  3:02 ` Jared Finder via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-03-26 15:33   ` Jared Finder via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-04-13  7:43     ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-04-27  8:25       ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-04-27 10:00   ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-04-28  4:44     ` Jared Finder via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-06-04  5:24 ` Jared Finder via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-06-04 15:59   ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-06-05  4:22     ` Jared Finder via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-06-05 12:10       ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-06-09  0:29         ` Jared Finder via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-06-09 12:23           ` Eli Zaretskii

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